Adam was made from dust, but the afore mentioned people were lost?

[GoldenKingGaze]

In Genesis it is written that God created men and women, and does not exactly mention them and say that they were good. So were they destroyed followed by God making man from the Earth directly? The previous by evolution?

 

[SkyWriting]

In Genesis it is written that God created men and women, and does not exactly mention them and say that they were good. So were they destroyed followed by God making man from the Earth directly? The previous by evolution?

God called on the land to create all living animals.

And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

Then God remade man into a Spiritual image of God.

26Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,a and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

God called on the land to create all living animals.



Then God remade man into a Spiritual image of God.

You mean He made a partial man into a fully spiritual man?

 

[seventysevens]

No that is just a misunderstanding of how some read the text , humans did not exist before Adam whom God made from the dust of the earth , , if you take the time to do a deep in depth study this should become clear , there is no evidence of any kind to support that idea , just how some people choose to view it,

 

[SkyWriting]

You mean He made a partial man into a fully spiritual man?

That's my reading on it.
I've never heard it before though.

 

[SkyWriting]

No that is just a misunderstanding of how some read the text , humans did not exist before Adam whom God made from the dust of the earth , , if you take the time to do a deep in depth study this should become clear , there is no evidence of any kind to support that idea , just how some people choose to view it,

I'm just going by what I read.

This reads than all living creatures are land made.

24And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

This reads that man was re-made into a Spiritual image. (God is Spirit.)
I checked into the words for "Let us make mankind" and none of the words used
even suggest instant change or creation from nothing. The words used are
more "Process" words. One could even say "evolution" with no problem.
But it does say "accomplish" which is not fast or quick even.

asah: accomplish
Original Word: עָשָׂה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: asah
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-saw')
Short Definition: accomplish

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,a and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

 

[SkyWriting]

No that is just a misunderstanding of how some read the text

And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures ....

Count me in.

 

[Piet Strydom]

if you take one verse and build a lot of assumptions around it, everything is possible even evolution and ancestors of Adam on earth.
But, if you look at a holistic view of the Bible, you will have to agree that Adam and Eve were the first humans on earth.
You will also have to agree that before Adam and Eves' fall, death did not exist, but Death entered into creation with the disobedience of Adam and Eve.
Therefore, no ape-men lived before Adam and Eve.
Furthermore, God say he made Adam from dust, and not from a hominid.
Therefore, any assumption that Evolution is true, is in stark contrast to Genesis and should be the topic of investigation. over 15 years I could not find a single shred of evidence in support of human-ape fossils millions of years old. There is simply assumptions upon assumptions and blatant deceptions forced by paleontologists on our minds.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

if you take one verse and build a lot of assumptions around it, everything is possible even evolution and ancestors of Adam on earth.
But, if you look at a holistic view of the Bible, you will have to agree that Adam and Eve were the first humans on earth.
You will also have to agree that before Adam and Eves' fall, death did not exist, but Death entered into creation with the disobedience of Adam and Eve.
Therefore, no ape-men lived before Adam and Eve.
Furthermore, God say he made Adam from dust, and not from a hominid.
Therefore, any assumption that Evolution is true, is in stark contrast to Genesis and should be the topic of investigation. over 15 years I could not find a single shred of evidence in support of human-ape fossils millions of years old. There is simply assumptions upon assumptions and blatant deceptions forced by paleontologists on our minds.

Lions and Sabre Tooth Tigers obviously were made to kill and eat. Death is part of nature.

 

[Piet Strydom]

Lions and Sabre Tooth Tigers obviously were made to kill and eat. Death is part of nature.

I can only agree with your remark. It is true indeed.
However, this is if you are under the impression that the original creation of Adam and Eve was one of feeding and death.
What Jesus clearly say is that Satan brought death over Creation (John 8: 44)
And do not skip over the fact that God told Adam that if he were to eat from the forbidden fruit, he will die.
Well, Adam and Eve were deceived by Satan and they ate from the fruit resulting in them aging and eventually dying.
Look closer and you will see that Adam and Eve did not look as we do today. They were made in the image of God. and God say He is light and covers Himself with light as we cover ourselfs with clothing.
Throughout the Bible we see that God appears as light. He even appeared to the whole of Israel at mount Horeb and this glorious light of God radiated on Moses' face, and this frightened Israel so much, they covered his face with a sheet.
Jesus was Glorified with Light, and even when he ascended to heaven, He changed into a bright light. And keep this in mind, when he ascended into heaven he was without any blood in His body as he told Thomas that a ghost does not have flesh and bone!
His blood remained on Earth.
The first animals that was killed on Earth was when God himself slaughtered animals to give Adam and Eve skin as clothing.
This is the story from the Bible.
Adam and Eve could not die, and were created to live forever.
They did not eat any meat, for their bodies were different from what they changed into after sinning.
They became mortal, with blood in their bodies.
And Romans 8 tells us that the whole of creation grown in pain for redemption of our bodies.
My conclusion is that THE WHOLE OF CREATION changed from a sinless creation where death did not exist, to a creation bound with death!
God did not create death, this was the doing of sin. Satan.
God created life, and will give everlasting life.

Therefore, animals and humans were different from what we are today. No one ate no one.

 

[Petros2015]

Therefore, animals and humans were different from what we are today. No one ate no one.

If indeed the Creation changed, it appears to have done so retroactively.

And we are left only with a book that says how it was and should have been.

Interesting possibility.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

I can only agree with your remark. It is true indeed.
However, this is if you are under the impression that the original creation of Adam and Eve was one of feeding and death.
What Jesus clearly say is that Satan brought death over Creation (John 8: 44)

This verse from John does not state Satan brought death over the Earth.

 

[Piet Strydom]

This verse from John does not state Satan brought death over the Earth.

True, But take these verses and read it with Romans 5: 12 that say with one man sin entered into Earth and with sin, DEATH.
Read Rom 6: 23 that death was due to sin.
Now read John 8: 44 and follow it up with 1 Juhn 3: 8.
THEN POSTULATE ON THE DESCRIPTION THAT GOD TOLD ADAM NOT TO SIN, ELSE HE WILL DIE.
I am not going to bring in a lot of verses that shows that before Adam and Eve sinned, there was no sin, and no death. This is already a given that the fruits of sin is death. This is why we are living in a body that ages and dies, because we do not possess the immortality Adam had which he lost after sinning.

Also think about the fact that Jesus, (the Word of God) became a human in a human body that was mortal, and He changed this body into an immortal body covered with light that ascended to Heaven to be with the Father.
This was the original intend of God to create man to live with Him.
Therefore, the creation before Adam sinned, had no sin, and this will be the evidence that there was no death.

The only reason why Atheists want Evolution to be reconciled with the Biblical narratives, is to destroy the existence of a created Adam that was immortal. They need to bring death into creation before the creation of Adam, and they won their war against a God who created everything perfect, but blame the Biblical God of death!
the following statements can now be made once they have everyone believing in Evolution====

=God created death, what a kind God that kills little babies with cancer, aids etc.
=This God of the Christian makes people suffer, if He is so all-mighty, why does He allow this suffering?

I hope you can see the reasons why a BIBLICAL DESCRIPTION OF CREATION can not include death before sin.

 

[Piet Strydom]

If indeed the Creation changed, it appears to have done so retroactively.

And we are left only with a book that says how it was and should have been.

Interesting possibility.

True, only One Book.
However, there are many Books written by deceivers that would like us to believe that their books are also the one true book to believe in.
This is why one go and read what it says, and I did just that.
Only after investigating all these religions' books, may one criticize any one of them.

I concluded that this book I believe in has incredible truths that was written up more than 3000 years ago, and 80% this information was lost during this period until now.
This 80% information was only to be found in the Bible and no where else. this was the main source for criticism against the Bible over the last 200 years by Atheists and Bible criticizers.
and as archaeology, science, astronomy, science, and geology developed over the past 400 years, more and more Bible criticizers was proven wrong on any attempt they practiced to destroy the Bible.

And, looking at this One Book, as you call it, it has not only incredible insight on these mentioned sciences, but an Historical accountability not found in any of its counterparts.

Then one must also take its claims that this God created everything, man destroyed their original state of existence, and that this God came to Earth to save what was lost.
If this

 

[Piet Strydom]

If This "ONE BOOK' had no support to History, science, archaeology, etc. (as does the Quran, Book of Mormon, Upanishad, and more) It would be easy to deny its authentic as an authored book by God.However, I agree with Newton that I could not find a single contradiction in the Bible with Physical and Experimental Science. Archaeology attests to the historical facts from the Bible and in 200 years not a single discovery was in contradiction with the Bible, but EVERYTHING FOUND COMPLIMENTS WHAT THE BIBLE DESCRIBED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

immortality Adam had which he lost after sinning.
The only reason why Atheists want Evolution to be reconciled with the Biblical narratives, is to destroy the existence of a created Adam that was immortal. They need to bring death into creation before the creation of Adam, and they won their war against a God who created everything perfect, but blame the Biblical God of death! the following statements can now be made once they have everyone believing in Evolution====
=God created death, what a kind God that kills little babies with cancer, aids etc.
=This God of the Christian makes people suffer, if He is so all-mighty, why does He allow this suffering?

I hope you can see the reasons why a BIBLICAL DESCRIPTION OF CREATION can not include death before sin.

Everyone has their own reason to explain why God uses suffering and a have an explanation of why God allows evil. Given time.

I think Adam was singled out to never die and to even access the tree of life. But after sin, this was blocked.

I think Lucifer when fallen created death and God uses Satan. Such as when the angel of death killed the first born in Egypt. And God set an upper limit of 120 years for people to live.

Adam was once extraordinary, he'd have been able to see in the Spirit and see God... He was tricked while very young. If only he would have asked for wisdom.

Atheists and anti-theists have only a simple point of view trying to sour scripture and God. There are many answers including ones from theistic evolutionists.

 

[Kaon]

In Genesis it is written that God created men and women, and does not exactly mention them and say that they were good. So were they destroyed followed by God making man from the Earth directly? The previous by evolution?

Adam was the first man.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

Adam was the first man.

Maybe then that is why God did not refer to the men and women to say they were good? By the time there were men and women, there was sin and violence?

 

[joshua 1 9]

In Genesis it is written that God created men and women, and does not exactly mention them and say that they were good. So were they destroyed followed by God making man from the Earth directly? The previous by evolution?

The Bible says that God created male and female and gave them the entire earth. Genesis 1:28 ""Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it."

He created Adam and Eve: man and women and give them the garden of Eden. Cain was worried that these people would kill him: "I will be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” This was pretty much the way people died back then. They are usually investigated as a murder victim and then somewhere in the investigation they found out the remains they are doing a study on are 10,000 or more years old. This would substantiate that people lived a long life back before Adam and Eve because we do not find any remains of anyone older than 30 years of age.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

The Bible says that God created male and female and gave them the entire earth. Genesis 1:28 ""Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it."

He created Adam and Eve: man and women and give them the garden of Eden. Cain was worried that these people would kill him: "I will be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” This was pretty much the way people died back then. They are usually investigated as a murder victim and then somewhere in the investigation they found out the remains they are doing a study on are 10,000 or more years old. This would substantiate that people lived a long life back before Adam and Eve because we do not find any remains of anyone older than 30 years of age.

Interesting, there were more than Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel if Cain feared being killed.