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Adam, Eve, and Evolution

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If the fall was not part of the plan then everyone’s name would’ve been written in
I believe every name is written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world. If they reject God then their name is blotted out. Revelation 3:5 I will never blot out his name from the Book of Life. Revelation 17:8 written in the book of life from the foundation of the world.

Exodus 32:33
The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot out of My book
Psalm 69:28
May they be blotted out of the Book of Life and not listed with the righteous.
Psalm 9:5
You have blotted out their name forever and ever.
Genesis 6:7
“I will blot out man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth—
Psalm 34:16
But the face of the LORD is against those who do evil, to wipe out all memory of them from the earth.

Psalm 109:13
May his descendants be cut off; may their name be blotted out from the next generation.
 
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The Bible says God created the earth, the heavens, the seas, and everything in them in 6 days. How did this cheddar man exist before the earth was created?
 
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show ME the words "trinity" and "rapture" as well.
Rapture 726. ἁρπάζω (harpazó) Is used 14 times in the Bible.

Matthew 28:19: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." This verse from the Great Commission emphasizes the triune nature of God.
 
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I believe Revelation 13:7-8 indicates that not everyone was written in the book of life before creation.

“It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13‬:‭7‬-‭8‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬
 
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The Bible says God created the earth, the heavens, the seas, and everything in them in 6 days.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth".

The Bible begins with the word Beginning. IF we ONLY understood what that one word means we would understand the rest of the Bible. I do believe the Bible has a literal meaning.

I tend to go along with the teachings of Gerald Schroeder about what the word "day" means in the Bible. Dr. Gerald Schroeder earned his BSc, MSc and Ph.D. in Nuclear Physics and Earth and Planetary Sciences at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. What do you have your PhD in?

 
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everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world
"Has" is not in Greek. The statement is that their name is not in the Book of life with no reference to if it was ever written there or not. Clearly, the Book of Life was written from the foundation of the world.

Psalm 139:16 NLT
You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed.”

God gives us all of our gifts, talents and abilities at or before conception. We are to use what we have to bring Him praise, honor and glory.
 
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There are seminary colleges for every single denomination under the sun, they can’t all be right if their theology and doctrines are different from one another. So evidently a PHD doesn’t make someone an expert and it doesn’t mean they’re right. So your “PHD” says that Genesis 1:5 doesn’t say the first day, he claims it says day one. But here’s an example of echâd being used in the first row and shênı̂y being used in the second row exactly the same way they’re used in Genesis 1:5 and Genesis 1:8.

“You shall mount on it four rows of stones; the first row shall be a row of ruby, topaz and emerald; and the second row a turquoise, a sapphire and a diamond;”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭28‬:‭17‬-‭18‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Notice the same Hebrew word echâd used in the “first” row is the same word used in Genesis 1:5 for the “first” day. And the same Hebrew word shênı̂y for the “second” day in Genesis 1:8 is also the same word used here in this verse as well.

ri'shôn and echâd are used interchangeably in the Old Testament. Here’s an example below.

“Now it came about in the six hundred and first (echâd) year, in the first (ri'shôn) month, on the first (echâd) of the month, the water was dried up from the earth. Then Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and behold, the surface of the ground was dried up.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭8‬:‭13‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Here we see echâd and ri'shôn being used interchangeably as “first” in the same verse.

Like I said a PHD doesn’t mean someone is right, it just means they’ve studied. The problem is who taught them and was that person correct? I could attend a Westminster Seminary and graduate with honors and get a PHD then go to an Eastern Orthodox Seminary and fail miserably because their theology is very different and on some doctrines completely opposite. Both of these institutions have studied for a very long time, obviously the EOC has studied much longer, but the point is that just because someone got a PHD from a seminary doesn’t mean they’re right, it depends on if they chose the right seminary to attend.
 
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Psalm 139 doesn’t mention the book of life. There was also the book of the living as well. Revelation and Daniel mentions several books. Revelation 20:12 Daniel 7:10 So Psalm 139 doesn’t specify which book is being referred to.

I disagree that the statement is that their name is not written because it was written according to God’s foreknowledge. Why would God write someone in that He knows will not abide in Christ? 1 Peter 1:1-2 is another clue.

“Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The chosen or electos are preordained according to God’s foreknowledge, these are those who are written in the book of life.
 
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Psalm 139 doesn’t mention the book of life.
I had a dream about my daughter in Heaven. I talked to one of her angels that was reading her book. It was his job to help her become the person God created her to be.
 
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There are seminary colleges for every single denomination under the sun, they can’t all be right if their theology and doctrines are different from one another.
That is why the Holy Spirit of God is to be our teacher, not man. But I like to see how God is working in the lives of other people compared to how He is working in my life.
 
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That is why the Holy Spirit of God is to be our teacher, not man. But I like to see how God is working in the lives of other people compared to how He is working in my life.

The Holy Spirit is our guide in how we should walk in our faith but it is evident that He does not ensure that our theology is correct. If He did ensure that our theology was correct then only one denomination would possess the Holy Spirit.
 
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If they are not written in the book of life, it is because their name has been blotted out.

Why would their name have been written in the book of life to begin with if God was writing the names in according to His foreknowledge? He wrote the names before anyone existed. There’s no verse that says that everyone’s name was written in the book of life and there’s no verse that says any names were actually blotted out. Everything we do and everything we will do God has already foreseen before creation, every prayer we pray He has heard before creation, which means what we do now is shaping what He has already foreseen when He wrote the book of life before He created anything and it is this information that He has based His election on. It makes no sense that God would already know the outcome and still write the names of those who would reject Christ into the book of life.

The usage of γεγραμμαι in Revelation 13:8 is written in the pluperfect 3 person singular which means that it is referring to something that took place in the past. That’s why the word “has” is implied in the verse because that particular spelling of the word indicates that the names were not written previously. Revelation 13:7-8 undoubtedly mandates that some names were not written in the book of life.
 
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Why would their name have been written in the book of life to begin with if God was writing the names in according to His foreknowledge? He wrote the names before anyone existed.
I had a pastor who taught that God has the power NOT to know. For example, we are told: " I will remember their sin no more." Jeremiah 31:34

Ephesians 1:4-5

"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love, he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will."

This verse suggests that God had a knowledge of and a plan for believers even before the world was created. It speaks to the idea that God's knowledge and purpose extend beyond time and that He has a predetermined plan for those who belong to Him.

Additionally, Psalm 139:16 says, "Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be." This verse reflects the belief that God's knowledge encompasses every detail of our lives, even before we are born.

My daughter never made it into the womb. Yet once conceived God had a plan for her and her life. More than anything they hope their parents will make it to Heaven so they can be united with them.
 
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PHD doesn’t make someone an expert and it doesn’t mean they’re right.
This is why we have peer review. Some within the church are open to dialogue and debate, while others strongly oppose. The case of Martin Luther is a classic example.
 
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God being in all time simultaneously can’t forget anything. The term “will not remember” means He will not think on those sins.
 
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If God knows everything ahead of time, then we live in a virtual world. Welcome to the matrix.

That's the worst definition of "virtual world" I've yet to see.

So since God is all-powerful too, do we live in the World Gym?
 
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