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Adam and Eve

Wedjat

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Mamma mia --- you guys can't recognize your own Adam and Eve?

There's the Adam and Eve of the Bible, then there's the Adam and Eve of science.

(WOW!)

No one ever claimed that there was an original pair of humans. Individuals do not evolve, populations do. And they would have had a belly button regardless.

Have you ever considered that no one knows what you're talking about because no one in science ever claims that there were an original pair of homo sapiens.
 
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No one ever claimed that there was an original pair of humans. Individuals do not evolve, populations do. And they would have had a belly button regardless.
Oh, man.

This is just funny on so many levels.

Any of you guys thought to check Wikipedia?
 
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And which was that..does anyone know? My curiosity is piqued now (though it's probably off-topic)

In all likelihood an early mammal

Search Therapsid, although I would guess later than that because platypus' still lay eggs.

In all honesty, I don't know. That's not a bad thing to say once and a while.
 
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y-Adam and mtDNA Eve weren't the first humans, dude.
Did I say they were, dude?

If I remember correctly, they lived n-thousands of years apart or something.

mtDNA Eve came long before y-Adam.
 
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[FONT=verdana, geneva, helvetica]In the same way that we have a Y line back to a real Y Adam, we have an M line back to a real "mitochondrial Eve" who lived about the same time as Y Adam. But no one believes they were really mates. Although we humans on earth derive our Y chromosomes from Y Adam, and our mtDNA from mitochondrial Eve, we derive most of our nuclear DNA from all the other breeding females and males at this time in pre-history.[/FONT]
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Alright, I learned something today, thanks for that.
What does that have to do with belly buttons?

[edit] Actually, no, possibly not. If the use of mitochondria was adopted before the evolution of placental mammals, then no, I guess they didn't have belly buttons.
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Did I say they were, dude?

Then which part of Wedjat's quote were you yuck-yucking at exactly? There's nothing incorrect about it.

If I remember correctly, they lived x-thousands of years apart or something.

mtDNA Eve came long before y-Adam.

Yup, it's almost crazy that someone should think of pairing them up to make some kind of flawed analogy.

Oh, sorry, didn't see you there.
 
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Then which part of Wedjat's quote were you yuck-yucking at exactly? There's nothing incorrect about it.



Yup, it's almost crazy that someone should think of pairing them up to make some kind of flawed analogy.

Oh, sorry, didn't see you there.
Mamma-mia.

Sorry the OP is so hard to answer.

The way you guys are stumbling around --- I'm sorry I started this thread.
 
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Mamma-mia.

Sorry the OP is so hard to answer.

The way you guys are stumbling around --- I'm sorry I started this thread.

It's been answered.

And we know that y-Adam and mtDNA Eve aren't the same as the Biblical Adam and Eve.

Learn to infer AND keep up, maybe.
 
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It's been answered.

And we know that y-Adam and mtDNA Eve aren't the same as the Biblical Adam and Eve.

Learn to infer AND keep up, maybe.
Ya --- now you guys are gonna start acting like you've known what I've been talking about all along, aren't you?
 
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Ya --- now you guys are gonna start acting like you've known what I've been talking about all along, aren't you?

Never said we did, in fact there's clear evidence in previous posts that we didn't (and unlike you, we don't dismiss empirical evidence)

However now we do, and we did answer your question.
 
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Ya --- now you guys are gonna start acting like you've known what I've been talking about all along, aren't you?

We did. I personally looked up y-Adam after reading your OP because I hadn't heard of it, assumed it was the equivalent of mtEve for the y-chromosome.

But frankly, I don't care if you believe me or not - you're hardly an expert on much.
 
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This is ridiculous.

/thread

AV, you bang on about mt-Eve the whole time. How could we not know the difference when faced with someone of such astounding originality he debates by QV instead of actually writing original posts?

Ha and ha.

He says, about a /thread reference, after he /threads.

You're right actually, this is ridiculous.
 
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