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Shalom Ten-K,
The following posts were taken from another thread discussing the verse you have just posted:
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The following posts were taken from another thread discussing the verse you have just posted:
Why make it so complicated when it is simple?
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because of romans 2:29![]()
But a YAHudite is he who is so inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart in spirit,
not literally, whose praise is not from men but from ELOHIM![]()
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this is a very bad interpretation because it ignores the context. The VERY NEXT 3 sentences say this:
Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the benefit of circumcision?
Great in every respect. First of all, that they were entrusted with the oracles of God.
3 What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it?
Which gentiles were given circumcision? Which gentiles were entrusted with the oracles of God?
Rav Shaul is obviously making a comparison between jews who believe in Yeshua and those who don't. This has nothing to do with gentiles becoming "spiritual jews". That strange concept can not be found in the Bible anywhere. There is one mention in the book of Galatians of gentiles being ADDED to the "Israel of God" but that is not the same as BECOMING the Israel of God.
If you take an overview of the book of Romans, you will find that it's purpose for being written was because of a schism developing between the jews and gentiles in the congregation at Rome.
The jews were trusting in their heritage and the gentiles were saying that the destruction of Israel was proof that God was finished with them. Isn't it interesting that this problem remained in Rome even after this book is written which tells the gentiles not be arrogant against the jews "lest they also be cut off" ?
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"there is neither Jew nor Greek"...![]()
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It means that He is not a respector of our "person" We are all equal in regard to race or sex or financial standing.....or any other human measurement.
We are all equal in our status of preference in His sight. This does not mean we have all been chosen for the same role.
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I would also like to point out something that is overlooked by so many in Romans 2:28-29
The author (implies in some translations, and states outright in others) that one is not a jew ONLY on the outward (or flesh) but ALSO in the inside (heart). He is speaking of the spiritual jews who have BOTH circumcision of the heart and of the flesh.
It's a difficult sentance structure to follow, but the context of those two verses puts it into perspective so clearly... thank you for pointing that out Yod.
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