ACLU isn't "evil"

[TuxThePenguin]

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/005/22.64.html

 

[MethodMan]

I would hope the ACLU would start doing the right thing instead of doing things right.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

The reason that we get "the ACLU is evil" claims, is because no one likes to realize that they are wrong. Every time the ACLU sues someone and wins... and the lawsuit is against something that in your mind you thought was legally right, but obviously wasn't, it makes people realize that their standpoint is wrong. Hence, "The ACLU is Evil".

It's a normal defense mechanism.

 

[TuxThePenguin]

Method Man - can you elaborate - your last statement.

can you explain what you think are "the right thing" and "doing things right" that way I might be able to work out what you are actualy saying.

 

[CSmrw]

Do you suppose people who think the ACLU is evil to begin with are actually capable of seeing why they are in fact not? I think once you get something like that in your head you are pretty much done, thinking wise.

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

Do you suppose people who think the ACLU is evil to begin with are actually capable of seeing why they are in fact not? I think once you get something like that in your head you are pretty much done, thinking wise.

Really, it has to do entirely with your perception of American law, so you're probably right.

 

[cobweb]

Of course the ACLU isn't evil. The protection of the seperation of church and state is a good thing, IMO. Someone needs to keep us in check so we don't end up creating a Theocracy here. They may be a bit picky at times, but I applaud their efforts.

Reading about the Salem trials in American History or Foxe's Book of Martyrs should convince most people that religion and government should not mix.

The melding of religion and government hurts Faith as much as it does Secularism. Religion helps no one if it is forced upon those who do not believe.

 

[CSmrw]

There are a few articles, books and op eds running around about what is becoming of the "20%" in America, and as I wander around the net it's getting harder to dismiss these writings as hyperbole. I really never considered owning a gun. But in the last two years or so I have been seriously reconsidering that choice.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Method Man - can you elaborate - your last statement.

can you explain what you think are "the right thing" and "doing things right" that way I might be able to work out what you are actualy saying.

I got it.

*CC's decoder ring is still functional.*

 

[Thirst_For_Knowledge]

I got it.

*CC's decoder ring is still functional.*

I got it to. The thing is, doing the right thing, and doing things right, are the same thing for an organization that is there to represent Americans. If it was a Christian group, I could see the point, but that is not what they are.

 

[stumpjumper]

The protection of the seperation of church and state is a good thing, IMO. Someone needs to keep us in check so we don't end up creating a Theocracy here.

Indeed. By the very definition of Church it should be seperate from the state... If it is not then the definition of Church is rendered meaningless..

Civil liberties are a good thing even though some may take them too far. Nobody is right all the time and the ACLU makes mistakes too...

 

[ChristianCenturion]

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[TwinCrier]

Let's put this into perspective. The ACLU isn't ending world hunger or bringing about world peace. The planet won't explode if an atheist has to *gasp* look at a cross. The ACLU's greatest accomplishment is taking small, civil cases and sending them to the supreme court.

 

[CSmrw]

And god bless em for doing it.

 

[cobweb]

Let's put this into perspective. The ACLU isn't ending world hunger or bringing about world peace. The planet won't explode if an atheist has to *gasp* look at a cross. The ACLU's greatest accomplishment is taking small, civil cases and sending them to the supreme court.

Neither will the world explode if said cross is removed from a courthouse.

 

[stumpjumper]

Let's put this into perspective. The ACLU isn't ending world hunger or bringing about world peace. The planet won't explode if an atheist has to *gasp* look at a cross. The ACLU's greatest accomplishment is taking small, civil cases and sending them to the supreme court.

If that's your criteria for what is good then we can rule out Dobson's Family Life council, Jerry Falwell and his "blow them away in the name of the lord" BS, and Pat Robertson's entire TBN network.

None of them are doing anything to end world hunger or bring about peace...

Unicef is though... Go UN!

 

[Battie]

Do you suppose people who think the ACLU is evil to begin with are actually capable of seeing why they are in fact not? I think once you get something like that in your head you are pretty much done, thinking wise.

Yes, we are.

But the difference may be that I was only *taught* that they are evil. It wasn't a conclusion I came to myself.

I feel sorry for thinking they were so bad when all the time they've been helping everyone they can. I wish that had not been hidden from me.

 

[CSmrw]

Yes, we are.

But the difference may be that I was only *taught* that they are evil. It wasn't a conclusion I came to myself.

I feel sorry for thinking they were so bad when all the time they've been helping everyone they can. I wish that had not been hidden from me.

Point well taken.

 

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[midnightbirdgirl]

Any organization that is against Christianity as a whole and for NAMBLA in IMHO is evil.
Separation of church and state is one thing, but removing any semblance of God is quite another. Separation of church and state ONLY MEANS that the US cannot have a state church as was in England.
MBG