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Uphill Battle

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She wasn't sinless

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaaaaaagh!

she wasn't immaculately conceived.

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaarrrrgh!

she isn't co-redemptrix!

yes she is. No, that's heresy no, youdon'tevenknowwhatthetermmeans aaaarrgggh!

praying to Mary is idolatry

no it isn't yes it is no it isn't wellyouidolizethebiblenoidon'tyesyoudoheathenheretic!



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Peter wasn't the first pope

yeshewasnohewasn'tyeshewas....................................................................................(Many dots denoting infintum ad absurdism ad nauseum ad I'mgettingreallyboredofthewholethingism)


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She wasn't sinless

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaaaaaagh!

she wasn't immaculately conceived.

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaarrrrgh!

she isn't co-redemptrix!

yes she is. No, that's heresy no, youdon'tevenknowwhatthetermmeans aaaarrgggh!

praying to Mary is idolatry

no it isn't yes it is no it isn't wellyouidolizethebiblenoidon'tyesyoudoheathenheretic!



wait! stop! no more! Violation violation close thread!


what do you want to do now?

I know.

*click new thread*

Peter wasn't the first pope

yeshewasnohewasn'tyeshewas....................................................................................(Many dots denoting infintum ad absurdism ad nauseum ad I'mgettingreallyboredofthewholethingism)


;)



:liturgy:



:pray:





:sorry:


Quote mines, quotes mines......:D
 
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IMHO, if one is going to argue that a dogma of some group (be such LDS or Lutheran or Calvinist or JW or Greek Orthodox - whatever) is accountable and should be substantiated, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We seem to have a common "dual standard" being applied. "What YOU say is moot - you need to substantiate it as true! But what I say is dogma if I say it is, accept it with docility!" Replace "I" and "You" with whatever labels or denominations you like - same/same.


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She wasn't sinless

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaaaaaagh!

she wasn't immaculately conceived.

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaarrrrgh!

she isn't co-redemptrix!

yes she is. No, that's heresy no, youdon'tevenknowwhatthetermmeans aaaarrgggh!

praying to Mary is idolatry

no it isn't yes it is no it isn't wellyouidolizethebiblenoidon'tyesyoudoheathenheretic!



wait! stop! no more! Violation violation close thread!


what do you want to do now?

I know.

*click new thread*

Peter wasn't the first pope

yeshewasnohewasn'tyeshewas....................................................................................(Many dots denoting infintum ad absurdism ad nauseum ad I'mgettingreallyboredofthewholethingism)


;)



:liturgy:



:pray:





:sorry:



Yeah, that pretty much sums up GT. :)
 
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She wasn't sinless

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaaaaaagh!

she wasn't immaculately conceived.

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaarrrrgh!

she isn't co-redemptrix!

yes she is. No, that's heresy no, youdon'tevenknowwhatthetermmeans aaaarrgggh!

praying to Mary is idolatry

no it isn't yes it is no it isn't wellyouidolizethebiblenoidon'tyesyoudoheathenheretic!



wait! stop! no more! Violation violation close thread!


what do you want to do now?

I know.

*click new thread*

Peter wasn't the first pope

yeshewasnohewasn'tyeshewas....................................................................................(Many dots denoting infintum ad absurdism ad nauseum ad I'mgettingreallyboredofthewholethingism)


;)



:liturgy:



:pray:





:sorry:
Life in a nutshell.
 
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She wasn't sinless

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaaaaaagh!

she wasn't immaculately conceived.

yes she was no she wasn't yes she was aaarrrrgh!

she isn't co-redemptrix!

yes she is. No, that's heresy no, youdon'tevenknowwhatthetermmeans aaaarrgggh!

praying to Mary is idolatry

no it isn't yes it is no it isn't wellyouidolizethebiblenoidon'tyesyoudoheathenheretic!



wait! stop! no more! Violation violation close thread!


what do you want to do now?

I know.

*click new thread*

Peter wasn't the first pope

yeshewasnohewasn'tyeshewas............

The mods should delete every single post in the entire website and just leave this one.
This pretty much sums up all the conversations.
 
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Mary is the Mother of God. Mary is and was sinless. Mary was assumed into Heaven. Mary is the co-redemptrix. Mary is the co-mediatrix. Today is Mary's birthday!

Read about Mary and the saints here:

Catholic Answers: Library: Mary & Saints

And also here:

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Blessed Virgin Mary


IMHO, if one is going to argue that a dogma of some group (be such LDS or Lutheran or Calvinist or JW or Greek Orthodox - whatever) is accountable and should be substantiated, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We seem to have a common "dual standard" being applied. "What YOU say is moot - you need to substantiate it as true! But what I say is dogma if I say it is, accept it with docility!" Replace "I" and "You" with whatever labels or denominations you like - same/same.




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Mary is the co-redemptrix.
Is this official dogma?


Not YET. Many Catholic observers believe it is the next new dogma of the RCC - perhaps to be declared so within our lifetimes. Some thought the last Pope was just about to do so when the Lord called him home...

I think it does have the status of doctrine at this time - but I'm not sure about that.





What are the sources?

The RCC believes it is true, therefore it is - according to the RCC. Once it's dogma, it will not be permitted to ask if it's true. Actually, according to CCC #87, the faithful Catholic can't do that now since the RCC requires that all accept whatever the RCC alone officially says "with docility" as Jesus speaking.




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