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[Wolseley]

You always make my day, Wols. Peace be with you.

We aim to please, Sandy.

You all probably wont believe this but I was disappointed in the Left Behind books as they progressed. I am very picky about my fiction. A book has to be good if its fiction and I saw too much formula, too many characters, impossible plot lines and even a bit of playing around with scripture though I am a pre-tribber.

You gain wisdom, my child.

I *think* youre a college professor (dont remember where I read this, correct me if I am wrong)-Wols, so I can understand how even intellectually you could persuade someone to your point of view.

Actually, I dropped out of graduate school for a variety of reasons, not the least of which was that at the time, the campus "political correctness" garbage was at its height, and I refused to be told that I would be required to teach mythology as history just so some liberal wouldn't be "offended".

But in the end we all have to make the decision as to what we will believe

I disagree. I believe that God gives us the grace to know what to believe. He leads, He presents the evidence, He gives us the understanding to know what it means, all we have to do is accept and follow.

Ive read Lovecraft.

Good stuff. I have everything he ever wrote. J. Sheridan LeFanu is good, too, and Ambrose Bierce, and Algernon Blackwood, and Robert W. Chambers....

I know his horror is more developed past John Saul's

My seven-year old cousin writing about a Halloween pumpkin is more developed than John Saul.

I hate to say it but some bad writing techniques did take place in the Left Behind series.

See my last comment about the Halloween pumpkin.

I perfer Non-fiction by far--I have a collection of books on religion by the way.

So do I. See here: http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=359986#post359986.

That's not up-to-date, BTW; it's been added to since then......

I found Nicolai to be too wimpy to be a good Anti-Christ. Even Stalin makes the guy look like a choirboy.

LaHaye wouldn't know a good AC if one came up and bit him on the cheek. A good AC would be modelled on somebody like.....oh, let's say Reinhard Heydrich. That might be a shade more convincing.

 

[Budge]

My seven-year old cousin writing about a Halloween pumpkin is more developed than John Saul.

:lol!

So do I. See here: http://www.christianforums.com/show...9986#post359986.

Wow you do have an extensive library. Ive read many off your last list. I read Thigpens--The Rapture Trap and Why do catholics do That? before exit even. I sold some of my Catholic books after leaving the RCC though I held onto some for apologetics online. Is this why you purchased the anti-Catholic books? Have you ever read Malachi Martin books? I used to check out books from the Catholic church library and read about 4 a week.

Some of your more academic books would make interesting reads.
(could use them for apologetics)

I own many books on Marian apparitions--Michael H. Brown though I doubt hes known as an academic.

"Sacred Orgins of Profound Things" is a very interesting book. Lite-reading but I found it engaging. Its written by a Catholic.

LaHaye wouldn't know a good AC if one came up and bit him on the cheek. A good AC would be modelled on somebody like.....oh, let's say Reinhard Heydrich. That might be a shade more convincing.

Oh dont be so hard on LaHaye. Remember I agree with him theologically. I agree a Nazi-like character would make a better AC but then I wonder wouldnt the AC be oozing charm while underneath being a snake? more um like Bill Clinton

 

[isshinwhat]

...I wonder wouldnt the AC be oozing charm while underneath being a snake? more um like Bill Clinton

LOL... I agree with you there, Budge.

 

[Budge]

 

[Wolseley]

Is this why you purchased the anti-Catholic books?

I got the anti-Catholic books mostly for the purpose of debating with various "Babdists" I have worked with over the years; those particular books tend to come up over and over again, especially Boettner, who is quoted verbatim more times by anti-Catholics than Holy Scripture. He apparently is also considered by the same anti-Catholics to be infallible, since nobody ever seems to double-check his claims. If they did, they'd find out that Boettner knows about as much about Catholicism as Louis Farrakhan does about Judaism. They also come in handy in working with new converts in RCIA, since they may have questions based on the same fairy tale books.

Have you ever read Malachi Martin books?

Yes, I have. They're interesting, for fiction; but I don't place any stock in them due to the fact that Malachi Martin was a Sedevacantist, a laicized priest, prone to sensationalistic claims, and if that wasn't bad enough, he was somewhat of a regular on the Art Bell show, which fact certainly speaks for itself.

I own many books on Marian apparitions--Michael H. Brown though I doubt hes known as an academic.

I've read his books, too. I don't bother with him because he's a breathless apocalyptist, the Catholic equivalent of a Protestant who sees the end of the world right around the corner with every 6:30 PM news broadcast. He's certainly welcome to pace around holding a big sign that says "Repent! The End Is Near!" if he so desires, but that doesn't mean that his work is academically sound, theologically accurate, or doctrinally approved by the Church.

Oh dont be so hard on LaHaye.

Why not? He's not all that much different from anybody else who hates the Catholic Church. He just knows how to make more money at it by gauging the level of gullibility in the general reading public.

Remember I agree with him theologically.

Good for you.

I agree a Nazi-like character would make a better AC but then I wonder wouldnt the AC be oozing charm while underneath being a snake?

Then Heydrich is the perfect choice. He was suave, debonair, wealthy, charming, powerful, and utterly, completely soulless. He could order the murder of dozens of people at his whim, and feel absolutely indifferent about it.

 

[Randy20]

To All,

First, Our Blessed Mother DOES play a role in our Salvation, we all do!  It's funny that so many people can't see that.  Jesus Himself told us that She is our mother and that we are Her children on the cross (Jn 19:26).  Are we not Diciples of Christ as John was?  Obviously God has sent Her down to earth with messages with good reason but people ignore Her.  What if She's not from God?  Please!  Jesus said to the people when they accused him of being the devil, that why would he cast out his own evil spirits.  Our Blessed Mother leads us to her Son.  She wants peace so that we can know Jesus.  Just like our own mother teaches us the things we need to know growing up and guide us along the road to adulthood and beond, Our Blessed Mother is there to guide us, protect us, and pray for us like only a mother can. 

And for the lb series...It's a trap people!  The rapture is a huge, huge trap!  Jesus is coming soon and when he does it will be only once and not twice.  They're stories that someone came up with and it's just another example of us not liking what we have so we change it.  God's teaching was one way and the rapture theory is not liking God's teaching and changing it to fit this world better. 

I pray that your eyes will be opened and see the Goodness in OUR Blessed Mother and come closer to Her and the evil in the rapture and stay away from it completely.

God Bless,

Randy

 

[Budge]

I got the anti-Catholic books mostly for the purpose of debating with various "Babdists" I have worked with over the years; those particular books tend to come up over and over again, especially Boettner,

I wrote you a long post last night but it got erased--error message so Im back. I think it is good you read the "other side" so to speak. This is a good thing. I read both In These Times--disagree with most, and National Review for example pertaining to politics. I read the majority of Dave Armstrong's site before exiting the RCC. Do you truly believe all of what is in these books is nonsense. I cross-checked some of Hunt's facts and found many to be true. Remember the posts on EP--where we were discussing anti-semitism of Constantine months and months ago?

who is quoted verbatim more times by anti-Catholics than Holy Scripture. He apparently is also considered by the same anti-Catholics to be infallible, since nobody ever seems to double-check his claims. If they did, they'd find out that Boettner knows about as much about Catholicism as Louis Farrakhan does about Judaism.

The problem in all these religious debates we have is that "not knowing" can equal a "different interpretation" For instance I know that officially the RCC teaches that Mary is NOT divine. That Mary is NOT to be worshipped. However in my own personal interpretation, I consider some of the actions crossing the line even with the defined hyperdulia and latria. I believe considering Mary the mediatrix of all graces is incorrect. Dont want to get into debate here since this is not the debate board.....but just using this as an example.

They also come in handy in working with new converts in RCIA, since they may have questions based on the same fairy tale books.

I was in an RCIA update (Already confirmed but in there with a friend) And some of these things were discussed. I remember disagreeing with the graven images and pictures of relatives debate offered in RCIA. It is good they present both sides.

Yes, I have. They're interesting, for fiction; but I don't place any stock in them due to the fact that Malachi Martin was a Sedevacantist, a laicized priest, prone to sensationalistic claims, and if that wasn't bad enough, he was somewhat of a regular on the Art Bell show, which fact certainly speaks for itself.

Im not sure MM is a Sedevacantist, he considers JPII a legitamate Pope. In the books he is more a man taken over by other forces and all the "Evil" Cardinals and Bishops. The Keys of This Blood is nearly prophetic in terms of globalist happenings. Ive read and compared sites on Gorbachev and other internationalists and it fits. In Windswept House, some of the descriptions of characters does fit real people such as Mahony equaling the "Capital City" Cardinal. I know you believe they are fiction but perhaps you should fact check these books, on many things they do check out. The Facts in the secular book Pontiff--history of last 40 years or so of the Papacy matched The Keys of This Blood in terms of historical happenings and others.

I do wonder about Martins exact history though. I read he died opening a kitchen cupboard and having a can or something fall out and knock him in the head. Wonder if that is fact or rumor? And what is the story about his "affair"? Fact or rumor.

The last book title he was going to write was to be an interesting one. "Primacy: How the Institutional Roman Catholic Church Became a Creature of the New World Order was the working title.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15689

I've read his books, too. I don't bother with him because he's a breathless apocalyptist, the Catholic equivalent of a Protestant who sees the end of the world right around the corner with every 6:30 PM news broadcast.

Well I do believe we are close to the end. I do think as you do Brown monkeys around even with Catholic doctrine and I wonder sometimes where he comes up with the things he does.

Why not? He's not all that much different from anybody else who hates the Catholic Church. He just knows how to make more money at it by gauging the level of gullibility in the general reading public.
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Remember I agree with him theologically.

Well, many of us disagree with the RCC, saying it comes from hate well...I dont think LaHaye hates anyone. LaHaye can sell books, he's written many even personality ones in the 70s. I think he is serving a purpose for God, writing easy to read books for people to learn about Revelation and be warned about the possible end times. I read through his book "Are We Living in the End Times"? the other day and it was pretty clear cut of the Pre-Trib stance. I know Catholics may not be pleased with La Haye because he does teach that the RCC is forming the structure behind the OWR. I do hope he is using the money wisely had has made from these books and at least some for charitable purposes.

Then Heydrich is the perfect choice. He was suave, debonair, wealthy, charming, powerful, and utterly, completely soulless. He could order the murder of dozens of people at his whim, and feel absolutely indifferent about it.

Very true, some of those evil Nazis would go home after murdering 1000s of people and play on the floor with their children.

First, Our Blessed Mother DOES play a role in our Salvation, we all do!

Dont agree with that. I think Jesus did the work.

. What if She's not from God? Please! Jesus said to the people when they accused him of being the devil, that why would he cast out his own evil spirits. Our Blessed Mother leads us to her Son. She wants peace so that we can know Jesus.

I compared the Marian apparitions to scripture later saw this backed up by video Messages from Heaven and they did contradict. The Bible commands we are to test spirits using scripture. We are warned of false signs and wonders. I dont think we can debate this here so if you want to continue we can move to Interdenominational board.

And for the lb series...It's a trap people! The rapture is a huge, huge trap! Jesus is coming soon and when he does it will be only once and not twice. They're stories that someone came up with and it's just another example of us not liking what we have so we change it. God's teaching was one way and the rapture theory is not liking God's teaching and changing it to fit this world better.

I read Thigpen's Catholic book The Rapture Trap and deeply disagree with it. They are not stories someone came up with. The Early church was indeed premillinial and believed in the millenium kingdom and in Thessolonians it describes the Rapture. Amillenialism in my opinion denies Revelation. In Revelation it is warned for those not to take away or add to that book. To turn it into mere allegory and to tell people it has already partially happened--makes no sense to me. There are descriptions that happen in Revelation that could only happen as the result of nuclear warfare--third of trees being burned and 2/3rds of humanity dying are among the verses. When did this ever happen in 70ad or there abouts?

I am sure that the real sister-in-Christ Mary is very kind and good and worthy of our honor in heaven but we are to wait til we see her. However I do not believe this spirit coming to earth is. I can tell you why. Maybe we should take this to the other board.

 

[Randy20]

Budge- Ok. New to this so I might need help getting over there.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Budge, you're starting to tick me off again.

Michelle

 

[Wolseley]

I wrote you a long post last night but it got erased

I have the same problem on the News and Current Events forum. I write a book, and it gets erased.

Personally, I think it's a sign from God.

Do you truly believe all of what is in these books is nonsense.

About 98% of it, yes----either in presentation or in interpretation.

Remember the posts on EP--where we were discussing anti-semitism of Constantine months and months ago?

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't remember a forum or a site with the initials "EP". Can you perhaps clarify?

The problem in all these religious debates we have is that "not knowing" can equal a "different interpretation" For instance I know that officially the RCC teaches that Mary is NOT divine. That Mary is NOT to be worshipped. However in my own personal interpretation, I consider some of the actions crossing the line even with the defined hyperdulia and latria. I believe considering Mary the mediatrix of all graces is incorrect. Dont want to get into debate here since this is not the debate board.....but just using this as an example.

As I have mentioned before, fortunately the veracity of a religion does not depend on the actions of its adherents.

In the books he is more a man taken over by other forces and all the "Evil" Cardinals and Bishops.

If I have to choose between what the Holy See says and what Malachi Martin says, guess which one wins?

The Keys of This Blood is nearly prophetic in terms of globalist happenings. Ive read and compared sites on Gorbachev and other internationalists and it fits. In Windswept House, some of the descriptions of characters does fit real people such as Mahony equaling the "Capital City" Cardinal. I know you believe they are fiction but perhaps you should fact check these books, on many things they do check out. The Facts in the secular book Pontiff--history of last 40 years or so of the Papacy matched The Keys of This Blood in terms of historical happenings and others.

I don't bother much with globalism, since I consider most of it to be nonsense. Your mileage may vary, of course. I also don't take everything I read on Internet websites at face value.

I do wonder about Martins exact history though. I read he died opening a kitchen cupboard and having a can or something fall out and knock him in the head. Wonder if that is fact or rumor? And what is the story about his "affair"? Fact or rumor.

Martin was killed by a couple of Alberto Rivera's Vatican assassins, who landed in his back yard one night in a black helicopter. After the deed was done, the body was beamed aboard a UFO specially flown in from Area 51 for that specific purpose, and spirited away to the EC headquarters in Brussels for examination.

It's possible that the Pope's agents botched their job, however, since there have been reports of Martin having been spotted late at night in remote sections of secondary highway, riding in a blue 1959 Cadillac with two other guys who bear a striking resemblance to Elvis and JFK.

Well I do believe we are close to the end. I do think as you do Brown monkeys around even with Catholic doctrine and I wonder sometimes where he comes up with the things he does.

A hyperactive imagination is a wonderful thing. Tom Clancy has made millions with his.

Well, many of us disagree with the RCC

*gasp!*
NO!!!!

I think he is serving a purpose for God, writing easy to read books for people to learn about Revelation and be warned about the possible end times.

Of course, the question that pops to mind here is, "What if he's wrong, and the dispensational theories he promulgates all turn out to be nonsense?" Whose purpose is he serving then?

I know Catholics may not be pleased with La Haye because he does teach that the RCC is forming the structure behind the OWR.

Of course, the question that pops to mind here is, "What if he's wrong, and the dispensational theories he promulgates all turn out to be nonsense?" Whose purpose is he serving then?

I do hope he is using the money wisely had has made from these books and at least some for charitable purposes.

You should do an intensive Internet search and see what he's done with his money, Budge.

Very true, some of those evil Nazis would go home after murdering 1000s of people and play on the floor with their children.

Not to mention Adolf himself, who used to worry about the most humane way to cook a lobster and who couldn't bear to see a dog in pain.

The Bible commands we are to test spirits using scripture.

No, it doesn't. Go back and read 1 John 4:1 again. John says to "test the spirits", but he doesn't say one word about using Scripture to do it. Acts 17:11 mentions the much-ballyhooed Bereans comparing the message of Paul and Silas to the Old Testament (which is all they had at the time), but the question then remains, were Paul and Silas "spirits"?

I read Thigpen's Catholic book The Rapture Trap and deeply disagree with it. They are not stories someone came up with. The Early church was indeed premillinial and believed in the millenium kingdom and in Thessolonians it describes the Rapture. Amillenialism in my opinion denies Revelation.

You're entitled to your interpretation. And I am to mine. And again, if I have to take the word of the Holy See against what anybody else says, guess which one wins? I can err. Other people can err. The Church cannot err. The Bible is not my final authority. Interpretations of the Bible are not my final authority. The pronouncements of the Sacred Magesterium of the Catholic Church are my final authority. *shrug* Again, your mileage may vary.

In Revelation it is warned for those not to take away or add to that book.

Last I checked, the Catholic and Protestant versions of Revelation were identical.

To turn it into mere allegory and to tell people it has already partially happened--makes no sense to me. There are descriptions that happen in Revelation that could only happen as the result of nuclear warfare--third of trees being burned and 2/3rds of humanity dying are among the verses.

It makes sense if you take it allegorically. Besides, are you saying God can only do things using means that we understand, such as nuclear weapons? Or is He capable of doing whatever He wants, whether we can comprehend the means or not? What means did He use to part the Red Sea? I never read about that one in a physics book.

Besides, famine, plague, and draught are equally capable of burning trees up and killing people. The idea that it can only be accomplished by nuclear war is something our old buddy Hal Lindsey dreamed up in 1970.

When did this ever happen in 70ad or there abouts?

Allegory, Budge, allegory.




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[Miss Shelby]

Today at 10:55 AM Wolseley said this in Post #50

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't remember a forum or a site with the initials "EP". Can you perhaps clarify?

Budge is referring to Examining Protestantism or less formally known as 'Steve's board'. 
http://pub28.ezboard.com/bexaminingprotestantism

I could be wrong, (and Budge can clarify if I am), but I'm pretty sure that Budge thinks that you and a poster named The Curmudgeon are one and the same.

Michelle

 

[Wolseley]

Ah, that clears that up. Thanks, MS.

Budge, I am not the Curmudgeon. I remember reading John's posts when he was active at RR, but he and I are not the same guy. Check our bios; he was raised in DC, I was raised in Michigan. His E-mail addy is different from mine. His interests include photography, sailing, and homebrewing; mine include history, theology, and biography. Further, I have only been to the Examining Protestantism website maybe once, just to see what it was like, and that was over a year ago.

I notice that you're quite active there, however.

 

[Wolseley]

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.

After surfing for five minutes, now I remember why I didn't go back there.

Excuse me---I have to go find Erwin and (again!) fall at his feet and repeatedly kiss his shoes in gratitude for Christian Forums and the way it's administered.

May the Lord bless him, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

 

[Budge]

Wow, I did think you were The Curmudgeon. Well glad I got that cleared up. Its confusing because some people will come on RR using different names. Wols, you and the Curmudgeon have similar writing styles and beliefs. Maybe he was the one I figured out was the professor. Thanks for explaining.

 

[Budge]

Budge, you're starting to tick me off again.

Well I didnt mean too

Maybe I'm dense, but I don't remember a forum or a site with the initials "EP". Can you perhaps clarify?

See above, all this time, and I thought you and The Curmudgeon were the same person.

As I have mentioned before, fortunately the veracity of a religion does not depend on the actions of its adherents.

Its true one should look at the doctrines in terms of making the FINAL decision.

If I have to choose between what the Holy See says and what Malachi Martin says, guess which one wins?

I have about the same level of trust for both. I dont know if what Malachi Martin wrote is true, he got some of the globalist happenings correct but whose to know if one wasnt there? . As for the Holy See, it is well known I dont hold the same trust in them as Catholics here do.

I don't bother much with globalism, since I consider most of it to be nonsense. Your mileage may vary, of course. I also don't take everything I read on Internet websites at face value.

I was interested in globalism even before I was a believer and have read secular books on it. Its an interesting topic. You should explore it more. The world is changing even on a secular level to a great degree.

Martin was killed by a couple of Alberto Rivera's Vatican assassins, who landed in his back yard one night in a black helicopter. After the deed was done, the body was beamed aboard a UFO specially flown in from Area 51 for that specific purpose, and spirited away to the EC headquarters in Brussels for examination.

Oh you shouldnt scoff so at conspiracy theories. The world is a more wild and wooly place then you could dream. Im sure this didnt happen though.

Of course, the question that pops to mind here is, "What if he's wrong, and the dispensational theories he promulgates all turn out to be nonsense?" Whose purpose is he serving then?

The A-millenialists of the world could be just as wrong and doing harm.

You should do an intensive Internet search and see what he's done with his money, Budge.

Maybe I will.

Not to mention Adolf himself, who used to worry about the most humane way to cook a lobster and who couldn't bear to see a dog in pain.
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I know pretty creepy stuff. Those people wrecked so much horror on the world. My husband only has 3 or 4 alive members of his ENTIRE family--Im talking up to second cousins because of how many who died.

No, it doesn't. Go back and read 1 John 4:1 again. John says to "test the spirits", but he doesn't say one word about using Scripture to do it. Acts 17:11 mentions the much-ballyhooed Bereans comparing the message of Paul and Silas to the Old Testament (which is all they had at the time), but the question then remains, were Paul and Silas "spirits"?

Let me explore this topic more. I believe there other verses that back up testing spirits using scripture. Ill post it on inter-denom board.

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You're entitled to your interpretation. And I am to mine. And again, if I have to take the word of the Holy See against what anybody else says, guess which one wins? I can err. Other people can err. The Church cannot err.

I know Catholics believe the Magisterium is protected from error. However I believe anyone can err including the Pope. Its true we all have different interpetations. I guess we will find out when we die and are with the Lord, who got it right. Also if the Rapture happens, I am sure there will be some pleasantly surprised Catholics.

The Bible is not my final authority. Interpretations of the Bible are not my final authority. The pronouncements of the Sacred Magesterium of the Catholic Church are my final authority. *shrug* Again, your mileage may vary.

This is one of those core issues that I differ on. I choose the Bible over the Magisterium as my final authority. That is one of the core differences even on RR between those who are Catholic and other NCCs.

Last I checked, the Catholic and Protestant versions of Revelation were identical.

Thats good!

It makes sense if you take it allegorically. Besides, are you saying God can only do things using means that we understand, such as nuclear weapons? Or is He capable of doing whatever He wants, whether we can comprehend the means or not? What means did He use to part the Red Sea? I never read about that one in a physics book.

God can do whatever he wants, but I believe the descriptions in Revelation match the effects of nuclear warfare--even the giant hailstones---which scientists have theorized could happen, nuclear winter and others. Its just too close not to mean anything. Those of ancient times never could have conceived of so many dying by fire in such little time.

Besides, famine, plague, and draught are equally capable of burning trees up and killing people. The idea that it can only be accomplished by nuclear war is something our old buddy Hal Lindsey dreamed up in 1970.

A third of the world's vegetation? Only Nuclear warfare could carry that one out. (Perhaps a meteorite would be an exception) I read Hal Lindsey in the late 70s when I was a kid, and I hate to say it some of the happenings in The Late Great Planet Earth have occured, the world has gone the exact direction as predicted in that book.

Allegory, Budge, allegory.

Allegory that represents things that will actually HAPPEN.




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[seebs]

Allegory *represents* things that will (or perhaps did) happen, but the actual physical descriptions are generally not what happens - they merely communicate patterns or flavors. Revelation fits the fall of Israel quite well.

 

[Wolseley]

Today at 05:44 PM Budge said this in Post #55
As for the Holy See, it is well known I dont hold the same trust in them as Catholics here do.

I know Catholics believe the Magisterium is protected from error. However I believe anyone can err including the Pope.

This is one of those core issues that I differ on.

I choose the Bible over the Magisterium as my final authority. That is one of the core differences even on RR between those who are Catholic and other NCCs.

Yes, Budge, your viewpoints are well-known and acknowledged.

Now you need to go to the top of the page, and understand that you are in the CATHOLIC forum, talking to CATHOLICS, and understand that this is primarily about CATHOLIC doctrine, CATHOLIC interpretations, and CATHOLIC viewpoints. If you want total agreement with your viewpoints, you either need to go to the Protestant forum or That Other Board.

I read Hal Lindsey in the late 70s when I was a kid, and I hate to say it some of the happenings in The Late Great Planet Earth have occured, the world has gone the exact direction as predicted in that book.

I hate to say it also, but there's a whole passel of stuff in that book that was way off the mark. There is no 10-nation European union. There is no Soviet Union.

But we've discussed that before.

 

[VOW]

To Budge:

I guess we will find out when we die and are with the Lord, who got it right. Also if the Rapture happens, I am sure there will be some pleasantly surprised Catholics.

True. And IMHO, when we die, there will be a LOT of Protestants cooling their heels in Purgatory for a while...


Peace,
~VOW

 

[Susan]

I have one question. Although I'm a premill pretrib, I see no harm in partial preterist, amill, or postmill beliefs.

If premill pretrib is true, which I believe it to be, all Christians, regardless of eschatological belief, will be raptured. There is nothing we need to prepare or be ready *for,* because "NO man knows the day or the hour."

Actually, I think some amills are doing more good for the Kingdom than some premill pretribs are, in that they aren't utterly wasting their time obsessing over conspiracy theories and other things.

 

[Wolseley]

I can't do better than to quote Father Peter M.J. Stravinskas, Ph.D., S.T.D., on pp 46-47 of his book Mary and the Fundamentalist Challenge:

"From very little Scriptural evidence, a rather complicated theory of dispensationalism has been constructed, with proponents maintaining their particular point of view with as much tenacity as they do with the virginal conception or bodily resurrection of Jesus. The irony, of course, is that so much effort is expended on a matter on which Jesus Himself confessed relative ignorance (Matt. 24:36), and from people who decry adding to the biblical data or subtracting from it."

(Emphasis mine.)