Abortions????

[Isaiah Lovelace]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

 

[HTacianas]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

Why not just drown our children? Wouldn't that accomplish the same thing?

 

[TuxAme]

I oppose abortion because murdering someone is wrong. Euphemizing it by calling it a "mercy killing" doesn't change the evil you commit.

 

[TuxAme]

Why not just drown our children? Wouldn't that accomplish the same thing?

Not just infants and children, why not the homeless as well? Drug addicts? The handicapped? Anyone we deem to be suffering?

 

[Tutorman]

I am disabled and have pain, so just kill me is the logic here. How dare you pretend to know what someone will feel their whole life. Every baby deserves life not death

 

[HTacianas]

Not just infants and children, why not the homeless as well? Drug addicts? The handicapped? Anyone we deem to be suffering?

We could baptize them to wash away their sins and just hold them under.

 

[ewq1938]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

We all must be born and live and die. Any unnatural intervention of man through a crime to end a life is simply sin no matter where the soul and spirit of the dead child goes.

 

[John Bowen]

Abortion is wrong son its evil . If you know a girl who is thinking about doing it .Tell her its wrong tell her adoption is the way to go .God said " Thou shall no kill " that's very clear. God gives life and God takes life we can't play God .

 

[redleghunter]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

God commands us not to murder. You can find this in Exodus 20:13

We are all created in the image and according to the likeness of God and this occurs at conception. Meaning from our very beginning we have moral worth based on being made in God’s image (Imago Dei).

 

[Serving Zion]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

You have made the logical fallacy in saying "why you would rather a child suffer in this life".

The Christian views life as a gift from God - a thing what we should be praising Him for. There are reasons why that isn't the reality for people, all being because of sin (See John 10:10).

We would rather that a mother who believes it is righteous and merciful to abort, recognise that she is thinking in a mindset of depression and that by following Christ, He can lead her to a place where ultimately, she will share precious moments of joy with her child and look back on how close she came to missing out on the whole meaning of life.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I am disabled and have pain, so just kill me is the logic here. How dare you pretend to know what someone will feel their whole life. Every baby deserves life not death

I can do better than that! I command, in the Name of Jesus, that every part of your body resumes it normal function and every disablement be put right and all pain go completely!! The Scripture says "I am the Lord who heals you!!" You don't need any faith for this to happen, because I have enough faith for both of us! If you have enough faith to say to the Lord, "I receive it!" Then I have obeyed the Lord and honoured His Word and so have you. Then the results will be from the Lord in His time, and I hope that He doesn't take too long about it, just to prove that He is more powerful than your disability.

 

[Not David]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

The problem is that you create a double standard. I'm sure you would oppose doing the same to an infant or child but since the fetus is treated as a subhuman then that question happens.

 

[Yarddog]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering?

Why do you think aborted babies don't suffer? Is it okay to kill you to keep you from any more suffering?

 

[Tolworth John]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

First please quote chapter and verse where this in the bible.
second, by your reasoning children in abusive families should be killed, rather than helped.

 

[Isaiah Lovelace]

First please quote chapter and verse where this in the bible.
second, by your reasoning children in abusive families should be killed, rather than helped.

I never said anything about abusive families, I was talking about people who can’t supply for a child. For instance the poor mother on the street corner just to get by, or the 13 year old child who had been raped and left. We live in America this stuff happens a lot and I live in the capital for human trafficking. Do you think they should be responsible for a live that they don’t want.

 

[Isaiah Lovelace]

First please quote chapter and verse where this in the bible.
second, by your reasoning children in abusive families should be killed, rather than helped.

Deuteronomy 1:39
“And the little ones that you said would be taken captive, your children who do not yet know good from bad—they will enter the land. I will give it to them and they will take possession of it.”

 

[Nige55]

I know this is going to open a can of worms, but I just had a thought. Christians who are against abortions, I'm curious as to why you would rather a child suffer in this life, rather than being sent to heaven before enduring any suffering? As far as I can remember children are granted automatic entry into heaven until they can be held accountable. So why deny a child a chance to have a loving home with your heavenly father instead of being raised in foster care, or worse? I don't get it.

In reference to the bold highlighted portion - Oh they do indeed suffer with that monstrous procedure. Do some research into how they do it (if you dare), it's horrific

 

[Yekcidmij]

I never said anything about abusive families, I was talking about people who can’t supply for a child. For instance the poor mother on the street corner just to get by, or the 13 year old child who had been raped and left. We live in America this stuff happens a lot and I live in the capital for human trafficking. Do you think they should be responsible for a live that they don’t want.

I think several people have pointed out the logical inconsistency on your part. If the reason is to (a) prevent suffering and (b) send them to heaven since they automatically get a free ticket, then why don't we apply this logic everywhere else? If a person is a Christian, why not just go ahead and prevent any of their suffering and send them straight to heaven too? Why not do it for all small infants? Why do you only apply these principles to some children in the womb? Your principles seem to be grounds for killing all children and Christian adults.

A second thought. You're trying to argue general rules from particular cases, but why aren't these particular cases you mention exceptions to the rule instead?

A third thought. When the parents commit a serious mistake, such as having a child they can't/won't support, why would you punish the child by killing it? What did they do to deserve death? Where is the justice here? It seems the real problem here is that you don't give arbitrarily young enough children the dignity and value that you give to other humans. What gives you the right to determine which humans are worth more than other humans?

A fourth thought. What gives you the right to determine for someone else whether or not they get to suffer? Maybe the child would rather suffer and struggle though life than be killed as a child? What gives you the right to make this decision for them?

This looks to me like a gross disrespect for human life and people's right to their own life.

 

[Doctor.Sphinx]

Not just infants and children, why not the homeless as well? Drug addicts? The handicapped? Anyone we deem to be suffering?

What about those who might not be suffering so much themselves, but are a source of suffering for others? That's almost the same thing, isn't it? I know, because I have some neighbours and colleagues who are constantly causing suffering to me. I'm sure we can extend the definition just a little bit further to allow us to drown these ones, too.

 

[TuxAme]

What about those who might not be suffering so much themselves, but are a source of suffering for others?

That's ultimately what abortion is all about. The existence of this child makes us suffer more than killing the child will cause them to suffer.