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Doctors at least know what they're talking about. They diagnose based on specific information about the patient and her health. What specific information about pregnant women do you base your opinions on?She had sex. Birth Control was not used. She now wants to destroy life that due to her actions she created.
What's your opinion?
Lets see if they would take the same statistic and play Russian roulette with their lives. Puts a whole different perspective on your chances at the very least for the conception for human life. On life or death....I say! And is God on your side?Really?
So would you say your position on this would change if she had used birth control? Cause the methodes we have, while great, are not perfect.
There is no 100% effective birthcontrol. so if the woman in your post had used a condom, clearly not wanting to get pregnant. But she just happend to be in the statistic where the condom failed to work?
Lets see if they would take the same statistic and play Russian roulette with their lives. Puts a whole different perspective on your chances at the very least for the conception for human life. On life or death....I say! And is God on your side?
The womb is intend to be a sanctuary in the sanctity of marriage! And the conception has it's own human DNA, identity and their rights are not human? Laws of man or of God?My point was that not every woman that might want a abortion was acting irresponsibly.
Which seems to be the primary way to demonize these woman in order to deny them their choice.
What exactly was your point? Cause I do not see one that relates to mine.
Man. Has anyone suggested otherwise?
There are ways to discuss when talking to atheists and ways to talk to other Christians about different ideas. Abortion is otherwise. I agree to what he said it is part of God and is a reasoning why we defend it so. But due to your lack of faith That can't be used much as an effective talking point can it?
Condoms are not the best form of birth-control. they are the best at preventing STD's as well as birth, if used properly they should work and if you are sexually active there are far better choices such as the pill among other things which boast over a 90%success rate. Condoms rip tear or slip causing their much lower efficiency. also there is morning after pill and spermicide which will kill and prevent pregnancy.
Besides if you are experimenting with Sex and your over the age of 12 then you know how babies are made.
Know wonder why all the killing of the human race goes on. For man doesn't feel the same today as in what tomorrow may bring, however; God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow!Man. Has anyone suggested otherwise?
Ignoring for a moment that one guy that came closest to the destroying of all humanity, and all other species btw, was god with his flood. Not to mention the countless victems from wars, witch hunts and bigotry all acording to his will. Wasnt it man that changed his mind?Know wonder why all the killing of the human race goes on.
Yeah we used to think genocide, slavery and beating your wife or kids was fine, bible approved even. Now we dont. Sure seems we are going down hill dont it.For man doesn't feel the same today as in what tomorrow may bring, however; God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow!
Ohya now you claim to know God......using God as a banner when it suits your argument/agenda! Taking things out of contexts well I'm here to tell you context matters! People soon forget, just in-like when i get out of a movie today and another generation in waring Cha shirt!Ignoring for a moment that one guy that came closest to the destroying of all humanity, and all other species btw, was god with his flood. Not to mention the countless victems from wars, witch hunts and bigotry all acording to his will. Wasnt it man that changed his mind?
Yeah.. If the human race wants to catch up to that deathtoll we are gonna need a few more decades of full blown war. so Id say mans laws are working out pretty well.
Yeah we used to think genocide, slavery and beating your wife or kids was fine, bible approved even. Now we dont. Sure seems we are going down hill dont it.
But your right, god is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Imaginary.
Actually I am not sure I will even grant you that. Gods mind seems to change just as often as that of his preachers and believers. but dont let the 10.000 different faiths who all identify themselfs as christianty throw you off im sure they all think their god never changes.
Though I suppose its not gods mind that changes, Its our understanding of him right?
Ohya now you claim to know God......using God as a banner when it suits your argument/agenda! Taking things out of contexts well I'm here to tell you context matters! People soon forget just as i get out of a movie and another generation in waring Cha on his shirt!If we base our lives on how we feel....there will be nothing constant! Ideas and actions have consequences therefore two wrongs don't make it right! There are absolute truth in life! You can't moderately dead now can you? I will stick to the truth. I think the problem lies within us. No one sees themselves as evil Not even the worst of the so called worst of us! No one is good not one!
Man is the problem and we tend to blur the lines between right and wrong, good and bad, just and unjust and means and end! Context to your reference in the flood.....God said they sinned "ALL" the time, contentiously and constantly. There wasn't anything good about them through and through. Except you read into it what you want to see. The hardest thing for man to get his mind around is God being Merciful, Graceful and justice all in one! But for now the rain falls on the good and evil "GRACE" ,however; in the second coming there will be justice and every knee will bow and every tongue will confess He is Lord! Meaning you have the choice right now to even sin against your own body, even to sin against the innocent which of no fault of their own are put to death....murdered!Ofcourse I will use god. How exactly do you not use god if the claim is gods laws are better? Besides he's so easy to exploit why let you theists have all the explotation rights?
Out of context? Does the bible not say god killed everything on the planet safe for whats on an ark? The only arguement to make here is that might makes right.
Right and wrong are in the eye of the beholder and majority rules in most cases.
If the majority opinion shifts so does right and wrong. Case in point. slavery.
There are no good people, there are no bad people. There are only people.
The truth? If you can only see the world in black and white ask yourself why are you adopting the world view of someone else and stick with that. Purely because it does not change? Because he's the most powerfull person you know? Because he's all good since he says he is?
If you are unable to put yourself in anothers shoes and see why they thought their actions where justified I feel for you. but why should you when you already have the truth.
Man is the problem and we tend to blur the lines between right and wrong, good and bad, just and unjust and means and end! Context to your reference in the flood.....God said they sinned "ALL" the time, contentiously and constantly. There wasn't anything good about them through and through. Except you read into it what you want to see. The hardest thing for man to get his mind around is God being Merciful, Graceful and justice all in one! But for now the rain falls on the good and evil "GRACE" ,however; in the second coming there will be justice and every knee will bow and every tongue will confess He is Lord! Meaning you have the choice right now to even sin against your own body, even to sin against the innocent which of no fault of their own are put to death....murdered!
He is God, but I'm sorry, I think you approach God's word with "intent prior to content"! Looking into Morality or the Moral conduct. How can you read into His word if you don't know the author or the narrative/Title of the book? Intent is prior to content......Oh and from earlier about different denominations in such, unity doesn't have to mean uniformity! God is the moral giver in that is who you are trying to to disprove in your differentiating between right and wrong and the cross of Jesus Christ is efficacious!God killed them all, for using that free will he gave them.
The only defense you offer is that might makes right. Never mind that he killed the world. He has the right to do so.
Free will apparently stops when you use it in a god does not like. So much for free.
If that is your idea of context and justice im sure your view of the world must be fantastic.
God has killed more innocent babies and fetuses then the entire human race combined for the lenght of its existence. Whats his excuse? He doesnt need one he's god. he's the most powerfull thing ever and answers to no man. Except noah apparently.
But he's a "Do as I say, not as I do" kinda guy aint he?
For everything bad or good without God is vain, therefore God is good all the time. God saves us and even if he doesn't save me from oppression. We that proclaim Him as Lord still have won! May God see to it that you see to your evil ways and walk the straight and the narrow path to His righteousness! God loves you no matter our ill way. For His love for us is boundless, not to be given just by His approval, but I ask you all this that may read in doubt. What do you do with your sin once you recognize you are a sinner? Give it to the one that is for you not against you! And proclaim Him as your Lord!
He is God, but I'm sorry, I think you approach God's word with "intent prior to content"! Looking into Morality or the Moral conduct. How can you read into His word if you don't know the author or the narrative/Title of the book? Intent is prior to content......Oh and from earlier about different denominations in such, unity doesn't have to mean uniformity! God is the moral giver in that is who you are trying to to disprove in your differentiating between right and wrong and the cross of Jesus Christ is efficacious!
O.k. my friend....in passing.....when you tell people about God and of His reconciliation, not in destroying you. People tend to do one or the other, repent or become outraged? Which are you? Some will even try to kill you for telling them, of the heart or for real, yes in-like the middle east! Good day my friend. No harm no fowl!Really? Your being oppressed? Come on.
Just for fun move to the middle east then talk to me about oppression in the west for christians.
Tell you what though, you go ahead and believe whatever you want. Just dont try to drag the rest of the world down with you. Let god take care of that.
Tell you what though. once you figured out which version of god to actually follow lemme know. There are quite a few of them you know.
O.k. my friend....in passing.....when you tell people about God and of His reconciliation, not in destroying you. People tend to do one or the other, repent or become outraged? Which are you? Some will even try to kill you for telling them, of the heart or for real, yes in-like the middle east! Good day my friend. No harm no fowl!
Transelation: Might makes right.
God is allpowerfull there for his word is law.
Its good because he says so. Its wrong because he says so.
No other reason needed.
If thats your idea of morality you can keep it.
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