Abortion

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[Calliso]

 

[Calliso]

It never fails!!!


I think that says it all!!!


Thankyou for saying that. Women have not always had their rights in this country, and like it or not it's a WOMAN'S right to choose. (this statement is not related to the father having the right to have a choice; that's another topic). As a woman I don't want one of my rights to be taken away; whether it's wrong or not and whether or not I would take advantage of it, I don't want to lose my right to choose. Men cannot fully understand regardless of how much they might want to or try to. It's not a man's right that's being taken; it's a woman's.

Exactly I may not take advantage of that right but I donlt want it taken away from me or any other woman either. And another thing..I cannot say with 100% assurity that I would not have an abortion if I got pregnant. So what right do I have to tell another woman that she has to continue her pregnancy? If I am not willing to take the baby in the end what right do I have to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth. *which isn;t the minor inconvience some people like to make it out to be..people have and still do die from childbirth and pregnancy complications*

 

[StarCannon]

Exactly I may not take advantage of that right but I donlt want it taken away from me or any other woman either. And another thing..I cannot say with 100% assurity that I would not have an abortion if I got pregnant. So what right do I have to tell another woman that she has to continue her pregnancy? If I am not willing to take the baby in the end what right do I have to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth. *which isn;t the minor inconvience some people like to make it out to be..people have and still do die from childbirth and pregnancy complications*

Well said.

 

[Weasel7711]

Exactly I may not take advantage of that right but I donlt want it taken away from me or any other woman either. And another thing..I cannot say with 100% assurity that I would not have an abortion if I got pregnant. So what right do I have to tell another woman that she has to continue her pregnancy? If I am not willing to take the baby in the end what right do I have to force her to go through pregnancy and childbirth. *which isn;t the minor inconvience some people like to make it out to be..people have and still do die from childbirth and pregnancy complications*

show me numbers and I will tell you whether its something to worry about

that being said think about the consequences before you act and have sex with someone.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 thess 4:1-8;&version=49;

1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 (New American Standard Bible) Sanctification and Love

1Finally then, brethren, we request and exhort you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us instruction as to how you ought to walk and please God (just as you actually do walk), that you excel still more. 2For you know what commandments we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.
3For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
4that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor,
5not in lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God;
6and that no man transgress and defraud his brother in the matter because the Lord is the avenger in all these things, just as we also told you before and solemnly warned you.
7For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification.
8So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

1 Corinthians 6:12-20
The Body Is the Lord's

12All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything. 13Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body.
14Now God has not only raised the Lord, but will also raise us up through His power.
15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be!
16Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, "THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH."
17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
18Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body.
19Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
20For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

 

[Weasel7711]

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[Weasel7711]

The bible isn;t infallible though. I mean do insects have four legs, rabbits chew their cud? also apparently there is two different creation accounts. These are just a handful of things wrong with the bible. I believe that some of it was definately inspired though and that some of it was just the sayings of men some of which were divinely inspired some of which may not have been. But still there is a big different between saying God created the biological processes which allow a fetus to grow into an infant in the womb and to say that God step by step does the process himself. I believe the former not the latter.

Do you believe that humans are created in the image of God? Or was that just Adam and Eve? Or no one since you apparently don't believe that they existed. Thus we are all just random biological accidents. In that case, why not kill anyone that is a burden on society? Why not just become a Nazi society?

 

[ciaradawn]

I don't think everything should be taken literally.

and please people, stop making such rude and nasty comments! there is no reason to be ugly here. just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't give you the right to call them ignorant or be so incredibly rude. some of you are just saying really ugly things and it's not helping to validate your comments.

 

[Calliso]

Do you believe that humans are created in the image of God? Or was that just Adam and Eve? Or no one since you apparently don't believe that they existed. Thus we are all just random biological accidents. In that case, why not kill anyone that is a burden on society? Why not just become a Nazi society?

I think created in the image of God means we have spirits not that we actually look like God. I believe in theistic evolution personally take from that what you will. And I am not sure yet what I believe on Adam and Eve. Though I doubt what we would call the first homo sapiens were actually named Adam and Eve.

 

[Calliso]

show me numbers and I will tell you whether its something to worry about

that being said think about the consequences before you act and have sex with someone.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 thess 4:1-8;&version=49;

Here is a link that shows some numbers http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/c/childbirth/deaths.htm

 

[Judy02]

That is pretty much how it always happens.

hehe, I know it just makes me laugh. All the OP wanted to know was a few thoughts. It sounded like she was fairly firm in where she stood on the issue in the first place as well. She probably would have had all the info she needed had people just stated their views, and left it. But instead people are debating and feeling like they have to prove themselves lol. I suppose some just can't resist the urge.

Makes me laugh though, because the OP will probably never even post again in here. The thread has just become something else, than what it was meant to be about in the first place.

 

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[Calliso]

 

[StarCannon]

I'm sorry if people are getting offended (seems like just you right now) but i don't make apologies for any of my statements in this thread. I do not write these things so that people can get that warm and fuzzy feeling in their stomach. My statements come from my world view which is based on Scripture and the Holy Spirit inside of me. If people say things that are in direct opposition to both (like support of the murder of babies) then i speak up against it. And words like ignorance in my mind are sometimes the only ones adequate to describe someone who calls themself a Christian and yet is so clueless on what God's Word says.

Don't worry about it. Some of us don't even believe in your god.

 

[Luther073082]

So God purposely creates people so deformed they suffer their whole lives? *which are often horribly short* Obviously God can create us cell by cell I personally believe though that he created *through evolution I am a theistic evolutionist* the processes for which we are formed in the womb. But I donlt see how thinking he doesn;t form us *directly at least cell by cell for every human being that is born means he is not Sovern or that he makes mistakes.

Humans caused every mistake upon themselves. Birth defects can in fact be blamed on Adam and Eve's sin in the garden of eden. That is when life was perfect, then humanity disobeyed.

But so you believe rabbits chew their cud, insects have four legs and plants came before there was any light? You take literally all the parables of Jesus? Much of the bible was not meant to be taken literally, many of it *like Noah's floods* were likely tales for us to learn lessons from.

Yeah like that flood from Gilgamesh. There is more evidence that an actual flood event did happen at that time then did not. The Noah thing is more of a leap of faith.

but either way this is quite a patronizing paragraph.

But you shouldn;t tell people they are not Christians just because they donlt interpret the bible the same way YOU do. YOU are not God.

Well first of all relax, Second of all I agree with you on bliblical interpretations.

But relax please.

Edit: Ok people probably started some of those with you first so I apologize. I think EVERYONE here needs to relax.

 

[andross77]

1 Corinthians 13

 

[Calliso]

 

[Vigilante]

Motion to abort the thread.

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