Abortion: What's right & wrong?

[username25]

My position on this ethical issue has been one that has developed over time. For the longest time I have battled with what I believe, what morals I posses, what my family tells me to believe, and what I read about in society. I feel as if I’m partial to some stances, and a firm believer in others. To help convey my position the best, I will simply answer each of the main ethical issues concerned with abortion as I stated above. First, are fetuses worthy of legal protection? That’s a tough question to answer unless I decided when I believe life begins. I think I believe that life begins when the fetus is reaching close to full development in the womb. Meaning, I believe that if a fetus were to be born premature, it could only survive if it had developed all of the proper organs and such to live. Once a fetus has developed all these essential organs whereas it can survive and live apart from its host, then that is when life begins. So then technically, with that being said, I suppose I also believe by default that a fetus is NOT considered to be a person within its first trimester of conception. Since abortion mainly takes place within the first trimester of conception, by default, I believe that abortion is still ethical. Does a fetus gain rights as it gets closer to birth? I’m not necessarily sure if a fetus should have rights. When I think of human rights, I think of individuals who exist in society, who are active in society, and who use resources that society has to offer. A fetus is not yet a being that is born, thinks, and has a place in society. A fetus is different than a baby that is born. Once human life begins when the child is born, THEN the rights shall be given.

 

[Nroley]

I dont really use the term "fetus", God never said "fetus", man did. I believe it is a baby ( beginning "life") is created by the Father upon conception and should be protected as a child of God.

 

[lux et lex]

I dont really use the term "fetus", God never said "fetus", man did. I believe it is a baby ( beginning "life") is created by the Father upon conception and should be protected as a child of God.

Do you have anything to substantiate this, or is it just your opinion?

 

[brightmorningstar]

Do you have anything to substantiate this, or is it just your opinion?

Yes the Bible. The Bible doesnt say foetus and refers to the unborn in the womb as child and baby. It also says God knows people in the womb. Jer 1, Job, Psalm 139 etc.
These have been given.
Can you prove foetus is in the Biblical testimony of God?

 

[lux et lex]

Yes the Bible. The Bible doesnt say foetus and refers to the unborn in the womb as child and baby. It also says God knows people in the womb. Jer 1, Job, Psalm 139 etc.
These have been given.
Can you prove foetus is in the Biblical testimony of God?

Let me get this straight, so if it's not mentioned in the Bible it doesn't exist?

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

Words like zygote, embryo, and fetus are the proper medical terms for stages of development in the uterus. They are no different than the terms toddler, teen, and adult. I have one question for the "pro-life" people here: why is it wrong to use proper medical terms when discussing a topic that involves medical procedures?

 

[GaBulldawg]

I suppose those terms seem dehumanizing to some. I don't mind, and I'm pro-life. I draw my belief from psalm 139 13-16:

13 For You formed my inward parts;
You wove me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are Your works,
And my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth;
16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;
And in Your book were all written
The days that were ordained for me,
When as yet there was not one of them.

So in verse 16 it explicitly states that a person exists before they are even in the womb, and God already has a place for them in his plan. Since an abortion would prevent this plan from being fulfilled, it must displease God.

This view applies to pregnancies that pose no threat to the mother's life. Circumstances where the mother's life is at risk must be dealt with individually. I don't think you can approach such situations with a one-size-fits-all doctrine.

If the woman feels unprepared to have a child, she should consider finding adoptive parents.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Let me get this straight, so if it's not mentioned in the Bible it doesn't exist?

It is no use asking me to justify what you are guilty of, namely using a term that isn't in the Bible.
The question was, can you prove foetus is in the Biblical testimony of God?

 

[brightmorningstar]

GaBulldawg

Yes I agree with you, and passages such as Psalm 139 clarify what passages such as Exodus 21 say.

 

[lux et lex]

Can you prove that organ transplants are in the Bible, and is that Biblical testimony of God?

 

[drjean]

My own view about abortion is that it's wrong, wrong, wrong...and the suffering a woman experiences afterwards proves to her it was a "baby." Now that some places are required to show ultrasounds, the incidence of aborted babies has gone way down there...

However, just to use the secular logic...how is it we protect (and punish offenders ) even the Eagle's egg? I mean, it's just an "egg" by all accounts, and not an eaglet yet...or is it? Why is protection so important to them if there is no life before birth?

 

[GaBulldawg]

I don't think the debate about the usage of "fetus" in the Bible has any bearing on the morality of abortion.

 

[ThankGod]

I think abortion is horrible and am against it. I wouldn't have liked to be aborted. The fetus' are disgusting, and can be avoided. I don't care if it's rape, incest, ect. No abortions, period. Especially if you were simply having unprotected sex by choice, and are too selfish to man/woman up and take care of your responsibilities. You chose to have sex willingly...

 

[Ave Maria]

Abortion is intrinsically evil no matter what the reason for the abortion is. Abortion is premeditated murder, period.

 

[tyronem]

Hi

It is likely you will see lots of unscriptural ungodly advice in this forum from people who claim to be followers of Christ.

If you would like God's viewpoint on abortion I recommend you read the following:

Can you be a Christian and be pro-choice

Science is clear beyond all doubt, life begins at conception. Anyone who denies this is a science denier.

My position on this ethical issue has been one that has developed over time. For the longest time I have battled with what I believe, what morals I posses, what my family tells me to believe, and what I read about in society. I feel as if I’m partial to some stances, and a firm believer in others. To help convey my position the best, I will simply answer each of the main ethical issues concerned with abortion as I stated above. First, are fetuses worthy of legal protection? That’s a tough question to answer unless I decided when I believe life begins. I think I believe that life begins when the fetus is reaching close to full development in the womb. Meaning, I believe that if a fetus were to be born premature, it could only survive if it had developed all of the proper organs and such to live. Once a fetus has developed all these essential organs whereas it can survive and live apart from its host, then that is when life begins. So then technically, with that being said, I suppose I also believe by default that a fetus is NOT considered to be a person within its first trimester of conception. Since abortion mainly takes place within the first trimester of conception, by default, I believe that abortion is still ethical. Does a fetus gain rights as it gets closer to birth? I’m not necessarily sure if a fetus should have rights. When I think of human rights, I think of individuals who exist in society, who are active in society, and who use resources that society has to offer. A fetus is not yet a being that is born, thinks, and has a place in society. A fetus is different than a baby that is born. Once human life begins when the child is born, THEN the rights shall be given.

 

[lux et lex]

Abortion should be legal. When we start legislating religious morality, we will have many problems as a nation.

Would I get an abortion? 99.9% no.

 

[GaBulldawg]

But if abortion is, in fact, killing a human being, it is no longer Christian morality, but instead a morality that is shared by most of the world: that murder is wrong.

 

[tyronem]

Abortion should be legal. When we start legislating religious morality, we will have many problems as a nation.

Would I get an abortion? 99.9% no.

lol, like legislating Thou shalt not kill, or thou shalt not steal.

 

[lux et lex]

Common sense legislation doesn't mean it's religious based.

 

[lux et lex]

But if abortion is, in fact, killing a human being, it is no longer Christian morality, but instead a morality that is shared by most of the world: that murder is wrong.

I think that issue of whether it is killing a human being is debatable. Murder is a legal construct, the unlawful killing with malice aforethought. Be careful with your language, the law is precise, not emotional.