ABORTION POLL 4 - LAST ONE... I Promise

[aimejl]

I am against it no matter what the situation is!!!!!

 

[mnmcandiez]

I dont know how a mother could have the thought that she killed her baby on her mind,

 

[Matt Never Existed]

My own mother has had 2 abortions, both before she was married. Both times, she couldn't 'afford' to have a child, so she took the easy way out. While I don't agree with what she did, I don't condemn her for it. She had them both before she was 20. She is currently 42, and when she was telling me last year about them, she was crying. I don't think she will ever forgive herself for what she did. (on an off note, Not only has she had 2 abortions, but she seems to have had 3 miscarragies. I sorta realized, after she told me this, that I have a very big family waiting for me in Heaven. More Brothers and Sisters to play and goof around with. )

 

[draper]

Hmmm...I do think that my opinions on abortions have slightly changed since I first posted in that thread.

To whoever called me stupid for saying that rape cases should have to be legally proven in court, you were absolutely right It would take too long to go through court, I wasn't thinking....

Anyhow, now I'm pretty pro-life. I don't see abortions for the sake of convenience right at all, and w/ rape, ideally the mother would keep the baby but I wouldn't condemn her for aborting it.

Of course where her life is in danger I'd support an abortion.

Now, the catch is that however I don't think that abortions should be illegal, not because I think its murder and blah blah blah, but because making it illegal doesn't make the problem go away and to a certain degree furthers it. All it does is increase the number of 'back-alley' abortions centers where people get diseases etc etc and 'coat-hanger' abortions where Lord knows what could possibly go wrong.

 

[Mac6yver]

So your saying a mother should kill a life an innocent one because she has a risk of something happpenning to her. Isnt that a bit selfish to kill a child that has no choice but to be in her womb-- and then kill to it.

No. There is no assurance that the child would even survive the birth. The mother has already established a life and should not be forced to commit suicide in order to give birth to a child.

 

[mnmcandiez]

But she dont know for sure if she will die. But if she dies the baby will have life and i still find it is selfish to kill an innocent life witch could most likely feel pain and have human features.

 

[Bulldog]

When there are serious risks to the mother's health.

What I voted for.

 

[Mac6yver]

But she dont know for sure if she will die. But if she dies the baby will have life and i still find it is selfish to kill an innocent life witch could most likely feel pain and have human features.

Thats great for you. However, would you wish to force your choice on another woman?

 

[mnmcandiez]

Thats great for you. However, would you wish to force your choice on another woman?

What are you talking about Im just stating my opinion. I cant force against another woman because that person isnt me.

 

[Susan]

Susan - there are diseases like diabetes and others that can be deadly to women.

I understand that, but if you know you have a disease like this or are predisposed to it, I personally don't believe that you should have sex unless you are willing to accept the consequences-all of the consequences.

 

[jameseb]

I understand that, but if you know you have a disease like this or are predisposed to it, I personally don't believe that you should have sex unless you are willing to accept the consequences-all of the consequences.

I can tell you're not a Diabetic....................

 

[jameseb]

It is my opinion that abortion is the absolutely unjustified taking of a human life. The whole "health of the mother" thing is a false front, IMHO, as someone who is in frail enough physical health to die in childbirth has an equal chance of dying in an abortion, and IMHO one needs to consider and accept all possible consequences (including death) *before* one has sex.

The only thing that kind of makes me waver a bit on my pro-life stance is the whole idea of rape, because that takes away any ability on behalf of the victim NOT to accept the consequences as they are forced on her. Even if she's decided she never wanted to engage in sex of her own free will. I still do not totally support abortion in that instance (as to me it is killing and therefore against my personal beliefs) and if it happened to me, I wouldn't choose it. . .but I don't know what I'd insist on for others in the same situation.

Wait just a second............ you're trying to say that a woman who is a type 1 Diabetic and could die from giving birth to a child should bear the risk of death, but a woman who is raped makes you waiver? If your decision is based on not taking life, than how could you possibly waiver on the last option if not for the poor woman with Diabetes?

 

[Susan]

My argument is based on the idea that having sex is a choice. I freely admit that it may be a faulty argument

 

[foolsparade]

At this point, I voted for complete access. I still haven't been able in my mind to get around me imposing my values on some else.

 

[jameseb]

My argument is based on the idea that having sex is a choice. I freely admit that it may be a faulty argument

Okies....well, mine too.

 

[Bulldog]

I agree with Susan. If you are diabetic, you should not have sex because that could make you pregnant, which you now could kill you. (becasue you are diabetic)

 

[jameseb]

I agree with Susan. If you are diabetic, you should not have sex because that could make you pregnant, which you now could kill you. (becasue you are diabetic)

Its just so easy to say that when you're not a Diabetic, huh?

 

[Blessed75]

Some women would be willing to take that risk Bulldog - for the desire to have a baby is so strong and instinctual in some women that I know that I for one would risk my life if it meant I could bring into this world a beautiful baby..........matter of fact, I did on my second child. Unless you're in that person's shoes it's awfully hard to imagine what they're going through...........

 

[crystalpc]

It has always been acceptable medical practice that a couple be given a choice of terminating a pregnancy, in the case of life threatening risk to the mother. Then it becomes a matter of choice. The mother can chose to take this risk, and there have been some miraculous births as a result.
However, wholesale murder is completely wrong. Infanticide is a sin God will judge, the numbers are horrendous. Over 40 million US citizens have been murdered since RvW what a shame on any society!

 

[crystalpc]

Abortion is not only legal it is a woman's right.

Everyone is quick with the adoption word but there are not enough adoptive parents for the kids already born.

PS

It's not murder because it is legal.

PPS

Abortion the biggest non issue of them all IMO. Only in America does it seem a big deal. I can honestly say I lose no sleep over the issue and consider the abortions themselves as just lumps of protoplasm. A complete waste of time to even think about it.

What a false statement. People are paying thousands of dollars to adopt foriegn born children, because they cannot adopt here.
I waited 5 years to adopt my son, on the state adoption list. I wanted other children, but the agencies always gave to people who were still waiting for their first child.
What world are you living in?