Abiogenesis

[VirOptimus]

I'm referring to an axiom such as; between any two points there exists a straight line between those two points.

That is an axiom because it is impossible to know if a straight line even exists.

You can assume that by observation and measurement that you can understand the universe. That is an assumption. It is unknown whether we will ever understand the universe.

Science is in essence a faith driven paradigm, you must believe that you can derive an understanding of the universe. I for one, am not a believer in this idea; that by observational evidence that we can know the universe.

Its against forum rules calling science ”faith”.

 

[SkyWriting]

Its not a scientific theory, its barely a hypothesis.

How many times has your view been cited in other peer reviewed journals?


Lichens, new and promising material from experiments in astrobiology
LG Sancho, R de la Torre, A Pintado - Fungal Biology Reviews, 2008 - Elsevier
… The Panspermia theory, which speculates that life spreads through outer space, was proposed well before the age of space travel (Richter, 1865, Arrhenius, 1903), although the idea has only recently been used as the theoretical basis for experimentation in outer space …
Cited by 35 Related articles

 

[klutedavid]

He’s the guy who thinks ID is true because a banana is like a can of coke.

No joke, look him up the Ray Comfort Banana man video on YouTube.

Who mentioned bananas?

I'm the expert on bananas around here.

 

[VirOptimus]

How many times has your view been cited in other peer reviewed journals?


Lichens, new and promising material from experiments in astrobiology
LG Sancho, R de la Torre, A Pintado - Fungal Biology Reviews, 2008 - Elsevier
… The Panspermia theory, which speculates that life spreads through outer space, was proposed well before the age of space travel (Richter, 1865, Arrhenius, 1903), although the idea has only recently been used as the theoretical basis for experimentation in outer space …
Cited by 35 Related articles

My publications are not what we are discussung.

Learn what a scientific theory entails.

 

[klutedavid]

Its against forum rules calling science ”faith”.

No it's not because you have to believe the assumptions and axioms are valid. Before you can conduct the scientific endeavor.

No one accepts assumptions, truth statements, without exercising a level of faith!

 

[VirOptimus]

No it's not because you have to believe the assumptions and axioms are valid. Before you can conduct the scientific endeavor.

No one accepts assumptions, truth statements, without exercising a level of faith!

Read the rules.

Addition to the Statement of Purpose

 

[HARK!]

But its still science of course.

So is astrobiology. LOL

 

[Larniavc]

So is astrobiology. LOL

If it follows the scientific method it is. If it does not follow the scientific method it is not.

 

[HARK!]

Its against forum rules calling science ”faith”.

I just looked and I didn't see that rule. Are you serious?

 

[klutedavid]

Read the rules.

Addition to the Statement of Purpose

I did not call science a religion. I said and rightly so, that science is based on a set of assumptions and axioms. These assumptions and axioms are accepted in good faith. These assumptions and axioms cannot be proven to be correct.

I stand by what I said.

Religion is another concept altogether.

 

[SkyWriting]

My publications are not what we are discussung.

Learn what a scientific theory entails.

Funding is key. I don't have any space funding. But others do.
"The idea has only recently been used as the theoretical basis for experimentation in outer space."

 

[SkyWriting]

Its against forum rules calling science ”faith”.

Science is pure philosophy.
It is definitely faith based.

 

[Strathos]

Nice rhetorical spin, but science fiction doesn't claim to be reality

Tell that to L. Ron Hubbard.

Anyway, regardless of the exact details of how life started (which we may never know), it was part of God's plan.

 

[muichimotsu]

But you still think you have freewill ina meaningful sense,
so my observation has caused you no harm.
So I am morally safe by telling you.

Nice try, but if your position is true, you have no moral grounding beyond divine mandate, which is in utter opposition to any real respect of autonomy.

 

[muichimotsu]

They might have swiped it from me. I was online taking about the faith of Atheists almost 20 years ago.

Don't act like you're the first to claim such a thing, because even if you somehow predated him, I seriously doubt you were even remotely original in that claim, given the dominance of Christianity and "apologetics" in terms of culture the further back we go

 

[HARK!]

If it follows the scientific method it is. If it does not follow the scientific method it is not.

What do the tests show? Has anyone been able to create even a single simple cell, in ideal lab conditions?

 

[muichimotsu]

Tell that to L. Ron Hubbard.

Anyway, regardless of the exact details of how life started (which we may never know), it was part of God's plan.

Non sequitur doesn't help, scientists creating a cult and incidentally using pseudoscience doesn't undermine scientific principles, to say nothing of engaging in tu quoque as well

And you have evidence of this where? Just asserting it is no better than saying the Tooth Fairy exists because I found money under my pillow after putting my tooth under it the night before

 

[HARK!]

Don't act like you're the first to claim such a thing, because even if you somehow predated him, I seriously doubt you were even remotely original in that claim, given the dominance of Christianity and "apologetics" in terms of culture the further back we go

There go my royalties.

 

[muichimotsu]

The Goldilocks Zone refers to the habitable zone around a star where the temperature is just right - not too hot and not too cold - for liquid water to exist on an planet. Liquid water is essential for life as we know it.

The earth also has an ionosphere which stops lethal gamma rays.

The earth has an atmosphere that prevents the planet from cooking.

The earth has an ocean that moderates the terrestrial temperature.

The earth's geology enables the availability of carbon chemistry.

The earth's atmosphere is rich in oxygen.

This goldilocks planet was designated not just for life but an abundance of life, perhaps even millions of species.

You realize the earth has an elliptical orbit right? It's not nearly that precise in regards to our proximity to the sun that we'd just start baking if we got an inch closer relative to our closest position, that's speculative at best

 

[muichimotsu]

There go my royalties.

Ah, what does 1 Timothy 6:10 say? Not sure you should care about such a thing if you're about saving souls and whatnot. *tsk*