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Well, I agree to a point. Unless child is born disfigured in some way...say...a cleft lip, then corrective surgery would be appropriate imho.cosmetic surgery should be reserved for adults over 18
sureWell, I agree to a point. Unless child is born disfigured in some way...say...a cleft lip, then corrective surgery would be appropriate imho.
I don't think the dramatic rise in transgenderism among kids is simply a result of more social acceptance
that may play a small part
but there is also the incentives the medical field has in treating these kids (aka money), the widespread promotion of transgenderism by wealthy activists like Jennifer Pritzker, social media influencers, etc.
The reason why I included this research and highlighted that portion is so that this "chicken and the egg" scenario can be ended.These children show extreme and enduring forms of gender nonconforming/gender variant behaviours, preferences, and interests because they do not identify with their birthassigned gender. Because of the incongruence between their assigned gender and experienced gender, these children may experience clinically significant distress and are consequently often in need of clinical attention
This is a list of the things that these kids said influenced them.. Both persisters and desisters stated that the changes in their social environment, the anticipated and actual feminization or masculinization of their bodies, and the first experiences of falling in love and sexual attraction had influenced their gender related interests and behaviour, feelings of gender discomfort and gender identification
In regards to numbers from the UK, I get a bit antsy because the NHS clinic they had set up, I think, was overwhelmed and undersupported and I'm inclined to think that some less that excellent medicine may have been occurring there....Your question was, "so how do you explain a 20 fold increase in gender dysphoria among kids in the UK?"
I responded with, "as it becomes more socially acceptable to express these kinds of feelings, more people are going to do so."
Frankly, its kind of a perfect analogy.Sure there is. I just made it.
I do not have children, but I would not accept trans ideology, regardless.That doesn't answer the question. What would you do?
It's too bad that their sex education has been so poor that they fall for it.
Still, you are interested enough to criticize (with some justification) the way things are being handled now. What kind of a program would you like to see replace it?I do not have children, but I would not accept trans ideology, regardless.
What do you mean?Still, you are interested enough to criticize (with some justification) the way things are being handled now. What kind of a program would you like to see replace it?
Treat everyone fairly and kindly. It's not hard. That does not mean I have to accept people's choices.There are always going to be LGBT kids in school. If you were running the school, what would your official policy on the matter be?
What do you mean by "accept people's choices?" Choices? Or just feelings about themselves, about who they are? Their feelings are their own, You can think them wise or foolish, and advise them when you think they're wrong. But "accept?" The word doesn't even make any sense in that context.Treat everyone fairly and kindly. It's not hard. That does not mean I have to accept people's choices.
It sounds like a lot of those kids are simply gay --or lean that way.In fact, for giggles, here IS some reasearch on gender dysphoria.....
Gender dysphoria in childhood | 9 | Gender Dysphoria and Gender Incong
The reason why I included this research and highlighted that portion is so that this "chicken and the egg" scenario can be ended.
Children have gender dymorphia AND because of that, they develop "significant distress".
I mean, I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that any of hte anti-trans people have come even CLOSE to cracking open and taking a look at the WPATH. I mean, it is THE single resource that would alleviate some of their concern but htey choose not to engage with it.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1359104510378303
This is a list of the things that these kids said influenced them.
1) Changes in social environment
2) approach of puberty
3) 1st time falling in love
4) Sexual Attraction
Notice: That is 3 INTERNAL things and 1 external. It's like we have to trust kids to know about themselves.
You know whats NOT on that list:
1) Parents saying "it's a sin"
2) Parents saying "stop it"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1521690X15000160
I've included this to reassure all that not every kid with gender dysmorphia gets the exact same treatment in the same timelines.
Notice:
None of these are completed by political bodies masquerading as health bodies
All of this is published in peer reviewed journals.
If someone imagined himself to be a dog, we wouldn't say "well we need to build you a kennel and start feeding you dog food"! --you would get that person into therapy.
Ridiculous, this.It sounds like a lot of those kids are simply gay --or lean that way.
Notice:
None of these are completed by political bodies masquerading as health bodies
All of this is published in peer reviewed journals.
Sorry for the bunny trail. I will comment on these specific studies after I read them.
You should probably just copy and paste this anytime someone posts peer reviewed work.I'm not commenting on these specific studies in this post (because I didn't read them yet) but rather on your comment that simply because this is published in a peer reviewed journal that somehow makes the research more authoritative and/or not prone to bias. In fact, this is nothing more than the logical fallacy of appealing to authority.
One major concern is that peer review has done little to identify failures of scientific rigor (e.g., improper statistics, missing controls, data fabrication, or manipulation, detection of bias) (5, 6). Another issue is that it has revealed institutional, geographic, racial, and gender bias (7, 8)
Then consider this recent study on "The Nonsense Math Effect" in studies. You can read it for yourself at the link below, but the gist of it is two different research papers were submitted to 200 people well-versed in reviewing studies and asked to judge the quality of the research based on the abstract. In 100 of those (randomly selected), a nonsensical mathematical model was added. Specifically it said this:
A mathematical modelis developed to describe sequential effects.
As you might expect, those with a degree in mathematics saw this for the nonsense that it was. But more interestingly is that those reviewers with degrees in medicine, humanities and social sciences and other fields rated the abstracts with the nonsensical math as being higher quality research just because it had a complex looking mathematical model included. It didn't matter that it was nosense. Its very presence caused the reviewers to rate the quality of the research higher.
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The nonsense math effect | Judgment and Decision Making | Cambridge Core
The nonsense math effect - Volume 7 Issue 6www.cambridge.org
Just because something has been "peer-reviewed" does not validate its methods and/or results, nor does it indicate that the results are not beyond question.
Sorry for the bunny trail. I will comment on these specific studies after I read them.
I haven't made any "presumptions"
but you seem to be making some claims here.
1. That people can be "born in the wrong body". OK, show me empirical proof of that, or what it would even look like, because that is a metaphysical claim
2. That gender dysphoria has nothing to do with upbringing, environment, or underlying neurosis / psychosis. So where does gender-dysphoria come from exactly? Are we going back into metaphysics?
There are countless studies on gender dysphoria --I don't need to start posting them here.
And even if, it could be proved that people are "born in the wrong body", it would STILL be unethical to subject them to sex-reassignment surgery, as it is impossible to change the biological sex of a human being
Transgenderism is ideology. Gender Dysphoria is a disorder.
So no evidence. Well done. The agenda to disenfranchise the non Christian from society is monstrous.I haven't made any "presumptions"
but you seem to be making some claims here.
1. That people can be "born in the wrong body". OK, show me empirical proof of that, or what it would even look like, because that is a metaphysical claim
2. That gender dysphoria has nothing to do with upbringing, environment, or underlying neurosis / psychosis. So where does gender-dysphoria come from exactly? Are we going back into metaphysics?
There are countless studies on gender dysphoria --I don't need to start posting them here.
And even if, it could be proved that people are "born in the wrong body", it would STILL be unethical to subject them to sex-reassignment surgery, as it is impossible to change the biological sex of a human being
Transgenderism is ideology. Gender Dysphoria is a disorder.
Don’t think that your lack of experience in raise kids from cradle to adulthood might render your view myopic (metaphorically speaking)?I do not have children, but I would not accept trans ideology, regardless.
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