A view on the Coming of Messiah

[Sephania]

All about the Messiah
The final Messiah will be a normal human being, born of human parents. It is thus possible that he is already born.

Similarly, the Messiah will be mortal. He will eventually die and bequeath his kingdom to his son or his successor.

The final Messiah will be the greatest leader and political genius that the world has ever seen. He will likewise be the wisest man ever to have lived. He will put these extraordinary talents to use to precipitate a worldwide revolution which will bring perfect social justice to humanity, and influence all people to serve God with a pure heart.

The Messiah will also achieve prophecy and become the greatest prophet in history, second only to Moses.

Maimonides states, "If there arises a ruler from the family of David, immersed in the Torah and its commandments like David his ancestor, following both the Written and Oral Torah, who leads Israel back to the Torah, strengthening the observance of its laws and fighting God's battles, then we may assume that he is the Messiah. If he is further successful in rebuilding the Temple on its original site and gathering the dispersed of Israel, then his identity as Messiah is a certainty."

 

[insaneinthebrain]

I often suspect that both Christianity and Judaism will not recognize the Messiah when he shows up.

 

[visionary]

The final Messiah will be a normal human being, born of human parents. It is thus possible that he is already born.

Now that is a denial of Yeshua if I ever read one.

Similarly, the Messiah will be mortal. He will eventually die and bequeath his kingdom to his son or his successor.

I would love to see scripture that agree's with this son's son stuff.

The final Messiah will be the greatest leader and political genius that the world has ever seen. He will likewise be the wisest man ever to have lived. He will put these extraordinary talents to use to precipitate a worldwide revolution which will bring perfect social justice to humanity, and influence all people to serve God with a pure heart.

I have no problem with this part.

The Messiah will also achieve prophecy and become the greatest prophet in history, second only to Moses.

?????what is achieve prophecy?

Maimonides states, "If there arises a ruler from the family of David, immersed in the Torah and its commandments like David his ancestor, following both the Written and Oral Torah, who leads Israel back to the Torah, strengthening the observance of its laws and fighting God's battles, then we may assume that he is the Messiah. If he is further successful in rebuilding the Temple on its original site and gathering the dispersed of Israel, then his identity as Messiah is a certainty."

Now that is scary....

 

[Sephania]

I find all of that scary, especially the part about the FINAL Messiah, you have no problem with that Vis?

And Second to Moses, how can he be all those other things and be second to Moshe?

 

[jgonz]

Sounds more like the Anti-Christ/Anti-Messiah to me.

 

[Bon]

Wow!

You know I was just thinking as I browsed through that article,

How would "christianity" have panned out over history if the Jewish population had recognised Yahshua as their Messiah?

Would the rest of the world's nations have embraced Him so readily?

Shalom from Bon

 

[MyZz]

That is interesting Bon,I had never thought of it in that way before...but then if they had embraced him then then there would have been no bloodshed and hence no atonement/sacrifice.Maybe that is why when Paul speaks of the Law of death or something to that effect he means that the torah Laws were such that they led to Yeshua being killed when he revealed himself as he truly was ie the Son of G-D.The Torah led to his death since if those Laws were not in place they would have had no justification in putting him to death.

I,m veering off the subject again

 

[visionary]

I find all of that scary, especially the part about the FINAL Messiah, you have no problem with that Vis?

And Second to Moses, how can he be all those other things and be second to Moshe?

Yes, I have a problem with that final Messiah, big time.... but my post saying so is gone.

 

[Sephania]

Wot happened?

 

[Bon]

Mmmmmm!

I seem to have lost a whole thread!

We did have a big problem yesterday, didn't we? I noticed a "Fatal Error" scrren coming up instead of the usual forums during the day (your night).....Did you miss it, or did you know of it?

shalom from Bon

 

[mmadison777]

The Messiah has appeared. His name is Jesus. He died for our sins and was resurrected after 3 days. He now sits at the right hand of God the Father. He will return and rule on the earth for 1000 years. After that Judgement will come for all people. Those who are written in the Book of Life will dwell with the Lord throughout eternity.