a try..

[Atha]

some depression is caused by natural sadness, some even by the food you eat.. but the worst depression is given from something else... try this prayer...

"evil spirit of depression,(or just evil spirit) I give you completely to God"

God is more than a man, He can handle what wrongs us perfectly... try this prayer.. it is like Jesus' power to cast out, but a much more peaceful solution..

 

[Poster0]

Thanks. Whatever the depression, anxiety or even fear is caused by, the Lord is my strength. Im sure many people have tried the faith prayer, and the "word of faith" thing, and all the orther stuff too. I find that accepting my weaknesses is very helpful. I also find that waiting on God is helpful. I follow the example of the apostle Paul, who teaches us by his own example, that we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. We can endure hardship and mental/emotional struggles, with the Lords strength.

Why is it that everyone wants to pray everything away, or cast it out, or speak a word of faith over it? What ever happened to waiting on God in times of need? Whatever happened to Gods strength being made perfect in weakness? I use to fret over my struggles and it only made them worse, it fed them and they gained strength, but it was when i learned to wait on God that i found help, and when i looked at my sufferings not as something negative to be cast out, but instead something positive that can help me grow in the spirit. All things work good to those who love God. All things.

I stopped listening to people who promise healing, and instead i just accept whatever hardship i may face. If i can change it then good, but if not then it will work for my good regardless. If however i worry about healing and it doesn't come, then i will be in a much worse situation than before. I will only end up fearing that God has rejected me, and that will only feed depression, anxiety and fear even more. However if i accept what i cant change, and walk in faith by enduring it with the strength of Christ, then i find much hope and strength, and purpose as well. Its good to accept whatever we cannot change, and to allow it to shape us into spiritual people. Thats faith and hope.

 

[Jeshu]

some depression is caused by natural sadness, some even by the food you eat.. but the worst depression is given from something else... try this prayer...

"evil spirit of depression,(or just evil spirit) I give you completely to God"

God is more than a man, He can handle what wrongs us perfectly... try this prayer.. it is like Jesus' power to cast out, but a much more peaceful solution..

I'm sorry dear brother but I think that such is very dangerous advise. Depressed people are often overcome in their faith, and may easily fall again after he or she has been delivered from the spirit of depression. As we know then things get seven times worse than it was before, the final outcome worse and not better.

I know from experience that this is one of those spirits where we have to work hard at overcoming it. Letting The Word give us many victories until we can stay in God's loving truth and keep out of the lies of depression and its misery. It seems to me a much safer way to not under estimate the power of depression and please let us not forget to try medications - often they help us along the way. We can always wean ourselves of those as we grow stronger and are more able to stand up against the lies of depression.

 

[Press On]

Thanks. Whatever the depression, anxiety or even fear is caused by, the Lord is my strength. Im sure many people have tried the faith prayer, and the "word of faith" thing, and all the orther stuff too. I find that accepting my weaknesses is very helpful. I also find that waiting on God is helpful. I follow the example of the apostle Paul, who teaches us by his own example, that we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. We can endure hardship and mental/emotional struggles, with the Lords strength.

Why is it that everyone wants to pray everything away, or cast it out, or speak a word of faith over it? What ever happened to waiting on God in times of need? Whatever happened to Gods strength being made perfect in weakness? I use to fret over my struggles and it only made them worse, it fed them and they gained strength, but it was when i learned to wait on God that i found help, and when i looked at my sufferings not as something negative to be cast out, but instead something positive that can help me grow in the spirit. All things work good to those who love God. All things.

I stopped listening to people who promise healing, and instead i just accept whatever hardship i may face. If i can change it then good, but if not then it will work for my good regardless. If however i worry about healing and it doesn't come, then i will be in a much worse situation than before. I will only end up fearing that God has rejected me, and that will only feed depression, anxiety and fear even more. However if i accept what i cant change, and walk in faith by enduring it with the strength of Christ, then i find much hope and strength, and purpose as well. Its good to accept whatever we cannot change, and to allow it to shape us into spiritual people. Thats faith and hope.

Right on, Poster0! It's taken me DECADES to realize this is what Jesus meant about coming to Him as a small child. Many times I have read this liberating truth and just kind of glossed over it.

As a new believer, all the yelling at the devil (binding), LOUD prayers smiting sickness, poverty or whatever (I didn't know God was deaf!) kind of creeped me out but I participated anyway being new in a Pentecostal setting. Nothing wrong with prayer, certainly, but I was a little uncomfortable with the theatrics of it, being an ex-Catholic & Lutheran. I since realized it's just some people's preference or tradition. It's so much more peaceful to give it all to Him and pray with confidence for grace & strength. You, Tempura & Jeshu have been particularly helpful in drilling this concept (truth) into my rag-tag brain. I think just getting old (or older)mellows me out some,too. Life experience is a great teacher if we are willing to learn.

 

[Poster0]

Right on, Poster0! It's taken me DECADES to realize this is what Jesus meant about coming to Him as a small child. Many times I have read this liberating truth and just kind of glossed over it.

As a new believer, all the yelling at the devil (binding), LOUD prayers smiting sickness, poverty or whatever (I didn't know God was deaf!) kind of creeped me out but I participated anyway being new in a Pentecostal setting. Nothing wrong with prayer, certainly, but I was a little uncomfortable with the theatrics of it, being an ex-Catholic & Lutheran. I since realized it's just some people's preference or tradition. It's so much more peaceful to give it all to Him and pray with confidence for grace & strength. You, Tempura & Jeshu have been particularly helpful in drilling this concept (truth) into my rag-tag brain. I think just getting old (or older)mellows me out some,too. Life experience is a great teacher if we are willing to learn.

Experience is a good teacher, and i agree that slowing down is very good after you have spent many years wound up. I welcome slowing down and resting.

The things i talk about are what i found in scripture, they are the things that helped me. I never found much help in the name it and claim it, word of faith doctrine. It actually made me worse because it made me feel abandoned by God when it didnt help. The Lord didn't leave me alone however, and his word as taught by the apostle paul, along with the Psalms and other scriptures, helped me when nothing else could.

 

[Jeshu]

Experience is a good teacher, and i agree that slowing down is very good after you have spent many years wound up. I welcome slowing down and resting.

The things i talk about are what i found in scripture, they are the things that helped me. I never found much help in the name it and claim it, word of faith doctrine. It actually made me worse because it made me feel abandoned by God when it didn't help. The Lord didn't leave me alone however, and his word as taught by the apostle paul, along with the Psalms and other scriptures, helped me when nothing else could.

Yes brother my witness is often the same apart of a few times. Therefore I do believe in faith healing. We have experienced it in our village when I was young. Where a widower lay dying from cancer with only days to live, prayed to God for life. He was told by God that he would get extended time to bring up his 11 year old son and he was cancer free when he awoke and lived till his son was 21 and then died.

I also experienced it in our Church where a man was dying from cancer - a whole group of Churches prayed earnestly for this man, the cancer disappeared.

We also experienced it at our home. Once in Spring our dog killed a massive tiger snake close to our home where the kids played, and he was bitten, and lay on our veranda dying. I urged my whole family to pray with me in faith and to trust that God would be willing to help our dog. It took all afternoon, it was a real lesson in waiting, and hoping that God would hear our prayers, especially when he was as good as dead laying in front of us, yet suddenly our dog got up, he had been completely paralysed, and laid down in our dam to cool off, it was late afternoon before he did that. He recovered completely.

I'm not sure why such prayers work one time and not another, but I'm sure that there is more behind it than lack of faith. Only when we are in God's will do we receive whatever we pray for, not otherwise and certainly not to make a public show of it or do it out of tradition.

If learned to see when prayer is real then God answers for real as well, though it might not always be what we want to hear. God knows the big picture much better than we do so acceptance and awaiting God to teach us the lesson we need to learn is most important and so incredible rewarding.

 

[Poster0]

Yes brother my witness is often the same apart of a few times. Therefore I do believe in faith healing. We have experienced it in our village when I was young. Where a widower lay dying from cancer with only days to live, prayed to God for life. He was told by God that he would get extended time to bring up his 11 year old son and he was cancer free when he awoke and lived till his son was 21 and then died.

I also experienced it in our Church where a man was dying from cancer - a whole group of Churches prayed earnestly for this man, the cancer disappeared.

We also experienced it at our home. Once in Spring our dog killed a massive tiger snake close to our home where the kids played, and he was bitten, and lay on our veranda dying. I urged my whole family to pray with me in faith and to trust that God would be willing to help our dog. It took all afternoon, it was a real lesson in waiting, and hoping that God would hear our prayers, especially when he was as good as dead laying in front of us, yet suddenly our dog got up, he had been completely paralysed, and laid down in our dam to cool off, it was late afternoon before he did that. He recovered completely.

I'm not sure why such prayers work one time and not another, but I'm sure that there is more behind it than lack of faith. Only when we are in God's will do we receive whatever we pray for, not otherwise and certainly not to make a public show of it or do it out of tradition.

If learned to see when prayer is real then God answers for real as well, though it might not always be what we want to hear. God knows the big picture much better than we do so acceptance and awaiting God to teach us the lesson we need to learn is most important and so incredible rewarding.

I don't much care to worry about such things. If a person cannot heal me then i will look to heaven and my new body that will live forever. Life is short, and there is no reason to fret over worldly things because it will only cause us to stumble. Im not against miracles either, but im not going to spend my life chasing them. Fighting the good fight of faith is about setting our minds on heavenly things instead of earthly things. This is why we put off things like greed, pride and other things of the flesh. They are only temporary but heaven is eternal. If i am supposed to look toward heaven and not earthly things, then why should i fret over my body so much? To me that is faith. God will judge us all. I want to be judged with mercy and so i try to be merciful. I want to live in hope so i try to speak of hope. To me hope is not found in earthly things but heavenly things. Many Christians are killed in this world. Where is there faith? Where was Stephan's faith when they stoned him?

 

[Poster0]

When i wait on God, im not waiting on some miracle to happen, but i'm waiting on His strength and peace. To worry about my life only robs me from the joy of living it. No one is promised tomorrow and the scriptures say that our life is just a vapor, its here today and gone tomorrow. Where is our joy then? For me its found by living one day at time, and enjoying today instead of worrying about tomorrow. Its also found in heaven where there is no more sickness, no more death.

What if God healed me but then i was martyred? What good did it do to heal me? Why would God allow Christians to be killed? Perhaps to show their faith in Him. They know that life on earth is only temporary but heaven is far better than earth is, and it is eternal. Maybe i can show my faith not by dying, but by living without being concerned with temporary things. If i live then i live, but if i die then i die. What can fretting over it do for me? Nothing.

I belong to Lord because i put my trust in Him and he will not disappoint me. This hope is what saves me, not hope in miracles but hope in the next life.` I live one day at a time, i dont worry about tomorrow, and i try to focus on heavenly things instead of earthly things. I am free. I dont concern myself with the opinions of others. If they judge me as having weak faith then they will be judged by their own judgment. What do i care what they say? I follow the spirit, not men. I myself would rather judge in mercy and hope. I look toward heaven not earthly things. I try to speak in that way because it is where hope is found when earthly things have passed away. Im a conqueror not because i am healthy but because i look toward heaven, not earthly things, and i live in the moment, not in tomorrow.


Romans 8:6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace.


31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]


37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Poster0]

I guess i got tired of chasing miracles. I have found help with my problems by waiting on the Lord and by looking to heaven instead of earthly things. I'm not free from struggle but i do find help in my time of need. I cant go back to chasing miracles or i'll just fall back into despair. I believe God answered my prayers for his help by leading me to follow the things i am following. It helps, but that other stuff never did. It makes me glad to see that God helps me. Im not alone, my faith is sufficient and Gods grace is sufficient to sustain me, daily. His strength strengthens me daily. Without my struggle why would i need Gods strength? If God gave me everything and healed everything then why would i still need his strength? Im happy to live by his strength, taking it one day at a time. To cast out my burden is to cast out my blessing as well. Why would i want my blessing cast out after i have experienced its goodness?



Proverbs 30:7 “Two things I ask of you, Lord;
do not refuse me before I die:
8 Keep falsehood and lies far from me;
give me neither poverty nor riches,
but give me only my daily bread.
9 Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you
and say, ‘Who is the Lord?’
Or I may become poor and steal,
and so dishonor the name of my God.



2 corinthians 12:8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

 

[Poster0]

If only i could express the joy in my heart at this moment. Its like sitting in darkness for so long, waiting for the sun to rise, and trying to tell the sun to come up before its time. People tell me to speak to the sun and command it to rise. I try but its futile. The sun does not hear my words. Its also futile to sit in despair and anxiety because the sun does not come up when i want it to. However when the sun does rise, then i see that God has not forsaken me, and its good to wait for the sun to rise in its own time.

 

[Jeshu]

I agree that we should not chase miracles - Jesus told us that in the end times people who look for signs will only receive the sign of Jonah - that is pretty clearly utter darkness! Rather if we seek good life we should sow the truth of the Word into our hearts and live by them. Love comes about when we love, not otherwise, the same counts for all good.

However be warned such counts for bad as well. When we sow lies then we will reap regret, hopelessness, sadness, despair, fear and such kind of inner misery. Or like with arrogance, greed, dishonesty, envy, lust, hate and all loveless (burning and demanding) realities dwelling within us, the more we have life in it, the worse it gets, unless we repent from being bad life and finding newness of life in Him. Where what is crooked is made straight and what was wrong becomes right. His loving truth at work inside our hearts, an amazing demonstration of divine salvation at work in our hearts. Where we can learn to be right instead of wrong.

Fighting depression is very much about making choices. If we stick to The truth of the Word then bad life attacking can't seem to overcome us. While all we have to do is await our good life growing stronger. What you will find when you walk in His truth, that in one we are taken up and in one we are left behind - the sheep separated from the goats - each time again!

So simple let the truth of God take you up - one at the time, until you in all your inner being have arrived in His good life. To refine your silver and gold you have to get rid of the dross, so the fire is turned up to red hot! It is best to understand that fighting depression is a life changing experience, where your faith in God is tested to the max and you have to learn to disregard your feelings and listen to the truth of the word instead.

Blessed are those who wait on The Lord, for the Word says "Behold I'm Coming Soon," and The Word doesn't lie, for in The Truth is no lie!

Let us seek Him with all of our hearts, so that united as one we may love, serve and know Him.

 

[Poster0]

I agree that we should not chase miracles - Jesus told us that in the end times people who look for signs will only receive the sign of Jonah - that is pretty clearly utter darkness! Rather if we seek good life we should sow the truth of the Word into our hearts and live by them. Love comes about when we love, not otherwise, the same counts for all good.

However be warned such counts for bad as well. When we sow lies then we will reap regret, hopelessness, sadness, despair, fear and such kind of inner misery. Or like with arrogance, greed, dishonesty, envy, lust, hate and all loveless (burning and demanding) realities dwelling within us, the more we have life in it, the worse it gets, unless we repent from being bad life and finding newness of life in Him. Where what is crooked is made straight and what was wrong becomes right. His loving truth at work inside our hearts, an amazing demonstration of divine salvation at work in our hearts. Where we can learn to be right instead of wrong.

Fighting depression is very much about making choices. If we stick to The truth of the Word then bad life attacking can't seem to overcome us. While all we have to do is await our good life growing stronger. What you will find when you walk in His truth, that in one we are taken up and in one we are left behind - the sheep separated from the goats - each time again!

So simple let the truth of God take you up - one at the time, until you in all your inner being have arrived in His good life. To refine your silver and gold you have to get rid of the dross, so the fire is turned up to red hot! It is best to understand that fighting depression is a life changing experience, where your faith in God is tested to the max and you have to learn to disregard your feelings and listen to the truth of the word instead.

Blessed are those who wait on The Lord, for the Word says "Behold I'm Coming Soon," and The Word doesn't lie, for in The Truth is no lie!

Let us seek Him with all of our hearts, so that united as one we may love, serve and know Him.

Sound most agreeable brother, amen.