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A truth circuit for your brain? Yes?

Gottservant

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Hi there,

So whether or not you want to think about this for the sake of something you may or may not need to know about God, it might actually make something clear about free will, you will have to see. I would like for it to prove something to you about God, but I can't force either of you to agree.

This is the proposition: say there is a circuit you can create in your brain, a certain set of beliefs that you can interrelate with observations of the natural world through faith, whereby what is believed to be the heart of God may be revealed to you. It goes like this, say the four fundamental forces of nature weakness strength magnetism and gravity are reflections of the Godhead the Holy Spirit Jesus God and Wisdom respectively. Right now that you've created that belief in your head, with your heart specifically identify that the magnetic force is an expression of God. Now, without forgetting what you have believed and how you have had belief from your heart, notice in yourself when you are aware of the magnetic force, by that relationship. In this way, you will learn of God.

The reason I give this big set up is that there is a certain foundation that is required before you can discuss God meaningfully - I am not saying it is for everyone, I am saying for those whom it is for this is an example of what it might be. The point is, it is basically a circuit, that more or less strips you of unguided will and creates a growth pattern of associations around what you see God do with the magnetic force. Over time you will realize that you think more and more like Jesus did of God, by remaining in the truth. It is an exercise, you have to do it - but it is not really you in one way, it is simply the circuit you have created in your brain (so it is harmless?).

Now you say "I don't want to be aware of God, anymore" but why is that? Have you not become aware of a force of nature, at a level that has practical implications for you if it affects your thinking when you are unaware of it later? Is this not science? And if it is science, is it not true? Is this not the sort of thing people are looking forward to when they say "I want to discover science for the truth"?

The point is philosophically, people want a cure of their lack of guidance, their lack of a bandage for their rampant free will that hurts them with its constant lust and vanity. A circuit like this, is like getting that operation that stimulates you deep in your brain, but unlike that surgery there is no visible incision - you just create a pathway in the brain that allows your inner design to function relative to something it was familiar with, from the beginning. That is the reality, the reality is that we all knew something about God already and for whatever reason we allowed rejection to take hold in our hearts, but the circuit amplifies the signal that was there and we become semi-invincible as the steel of character in us takes over. We begin to speak to God of what we see of Him and we develop a living relationship.

Even if we have committed horrible atrocities against God, the circuit works because it puts us back in touch with an awareness of God that we once had and knew as familiar. This is what it is like in the end also, so in a sense we become free, because we have returned to that which is inevitable, from the destruction of an awareness that did not previously respect the laws of nature. So in a sense our slavery to the circuit has liberated our narrowness of mind, a little, and allowed us to function as God had intended, with respect to what we are fortunate enough to have become aware of.

I wonder if you now have something to say about free will that you did not?

Thanks.
 

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Sounds like a rather odd description of confirmation bias.

Except that you express your understanding of the confirmation bias as an unsupported negative opinion.

If you read what I wrote, you will see that I created a context of ambivalence (not confirmation), in which the possibility of God is unfavoured.

Perhaps if you were truly objective, you would have realised this?
 
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Gottservant I love you!

Your posts always make me think... one way or another!!!

I love you also.

You are the first person to identify my posting style for what it is, I may remember you for a very, very long time.
 
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Just like everything Gott, I "Gott" a lot to say here. The first half of your post is how I relate to the spiritual elation I sense in my "soul" when I do what I feel is good. I turn to the bible, arbitrarily, and see that many of these things are paralleled in the teachings. It gives me the ability to grow in my elation, to bring that sensation to others. It is my goal as a living being. I "walk with Christ" because removed from the Law of it, it speaks truth about being enlightened by doing so, and gives me confidence in what I do. I feel the energy pull away when I am not true to this, and I repent with myself and devote to get it back the next time I interact with someone. I do, however, feel that it is honestly me. I am never torn between spirit and flesh. I often am just blatantly confused when people do things so selfish and immoral and reactionary. It never crosses my mind.

I've been called a saint. I'm not sure how I feel about the title, I'm not really arrogant enough to call myself that, it's probably the closest thing I agree with though.
 
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I often am just blatantly confused when people do things so selfish and immoral and reactionary. It never crosses my mind.

I think there is one word that explains that: motive. Believers have motive because their belief has been crucified, and it has still become real despite even that, so they have motive. With motive comes right action, with right action comes moral, with moral comes reason, with reason comes sense, with sense comes reality.

But this chain of belief is absent in those that do not have the truth circuit. The capacity to thread their observations of God together meaningfully, through belief.

I've been called a saint. I'm not sure how I feel about the title, I'm not really arrogant enough to call myself that, it's probably the closest thing I agree with though.

To be called a saint, is not a compliment, until you know what it is your Lord thinks of you in Him by it (selah)
 
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I think there is one word that explains that: motive. Believers have motive because their belief has been crucified, and it has still become real despite even that, so they have motive. With motive comes right action, with right action comes moral, with moral comes reason, with reason comes sense, with sense comes reality.

Motive, maybe. I was not a believer until recently (within 2 months). I have always been this way. I was born lacking the ability to mentally associate properly. It spiraled into a life of insomnia and schizophrenia. I was schizophrenic before I could feel the enlightenment (which I had not called it that until the last month), but once I did, always just passed it off as one of 100 random unrealistic things that was going on on any given day. Until I got on my meds. I'm fully treated now, and it's the only purely "otherworldly" thing I experience anymore.
 
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