A tiny vent

[CruciFixed]

Is it okay to make a tiny vent in here?

Today I was in class and my teacher was helping a fellow student on the computer with something that dealt with spontaneous generation. I guess the question was "Is spontaneous generation widely accepted today?" and the student next to me needed help with the question because he was unsure.

Anyhow the teacher says "Well whom is it accepted by?" and the student said "No one?" and the teacher says "Well not by Scientist but religious people believe in Spontaneous generation. Which is something comes from nothing."

WHAT?
Genesis anyone? We don't believe that something came from nothing. We believe we came from a Creator. No religion that I know of says "We spontaneously generated from nothing" I don't know any religion that says "People come from nothing at all." Does anyone?

I wanted to say something but I also wanted to mind my own business.

I hope this is not too "un Christian like" of me. I just had to say something to someone because I couldn't say my piece in class.

 

[rmw8855]

Take a deep breath

It was an inappropriate comment for your teacher to make, but unless the class was about religion you did the right thing by not confronting her/him then. If it still bothers you ask to talk to the teacher outside of class and explain why you felt the subject was inappropriate under the circumstances (off topic to the class if nothing else)

 

[CruciFixed]

I just felt he lied to a student. Instead of saying "Its not a widely accept theory" He had to put religion into it. Like all religious people are a bunch of lunatics who have no basis for what they believe. It was a lie and he knew he was lying. How can he not know that religious people believe in creation? (of some form) Even Scientologist who don't believe in creation so to speak don't believe we generated spontaneously. They think we're a bunch of aliens or some such thing as that. That's not spontaneous.

Nothing about Genesis is spontaneous though. We were a planned part of creation not an oops. God doesn't make mistakes.


-takes a deep breath-

 

[desmalia]

Your teacher is misinformed. It never had anything to do with "religious people". It was a commonly held (and now debunked) theory, invented by Aristotle.

 

[sealacamp]

Well actually this teacher is lacking in logic, that is quite clear. Because evolutionists are the ones that believe that we came from nothing by no means and became something through random (spontaneous) selection that arose randomly from spontaneity. You see spontaneous essentially means

arising from natural impulse or inclination, rather than from planning or in response to suggestions from others

So if nothing was planned then that would be evolution since there was/is no order or planning involved in life what so ever, according to the evolutionist. So this teacher is off the mark and doesn't know what she is supposed to be teaching, maybe she should consider changing her itinerary since she is unfamiliar with the one she is supposedly supporting.

Sealacamp

 

[CruciFixed]

He is teaching.

 

[Secundulus]

Is it okay to make a tiny vent in here?

Today I was in class and my teacher was helping a fellow student on the computer with something that dealt with spontaneous generation. I guess the question was "Is spontaneous generation widely accepted today?" and the student next to me needed help with the question because he was unsure.

Anyhow the teacher says "Well whom is it accepted by?" and the student said "No one?" and the teacher says "Well not by Scientist but religious people believe in Spontaneous generation. Which is something comes from nothing."

WHAT?
Genesis anyone? We don't believe that something came from nothing. We believe we came from a Creator. No religion that I know of says "We spontaneously generated from nothing" I don't know any religion that says "People come from nothing at all." Does anyone?

I wanted to say something but I also wanted to mind my own business.

I hope this is not too "un Christian like" of me. I just had to say something to someone because I couldn't say my piece in class.

The Christian belief is that God created "out of nothing". (ex nihilo)

 

[sealacamp]

The Christian belief is that God created "out of nothing". (ex nihilo)

You are incorrect. God created out of Himself not out of nothing. Perhaps you misunderstand the nuances of God and His creation. I would suggest some study.

Sealacamp

 

[ReformedChapin]

Welcome to my world...secular colleges tend to love doing that.

 

[CruciFixed]

Really?

 

[CruciFixed]

The Christian belief is that God created "out of nothing". (ex nihilo)

are you my teacher?

Even if God created out of nothing we weren't spontaneous. God planned to create us, correct?

 

[Secundulus]

are you my teacher?

Even if God created out of nothing we weren't spontaneous. God planned to create us, correct?

Spontaneous generation does not describe God because he is the creator. We were not spontaneously generated. We were created by God.

However, he created us, and everything, out of nothing. The reason for this is because before God created, there was nothing but God. If there was something other than God that he used to create with then there is something greater than God that provided that material.

Since there is nothing greater than God, there cannot have been anything else until he created it.

Does this make sense?
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A more theologically accurate way of saying what your teacher said is that God spoke creation into existence out of nothing through his Logos/Word who is Jesus Christ.

 

[Rhamiel]

bring this up with your teacher, he is mistaken so if you want to, call him out
the idea that life came from nothing (athiest idea) does not make any sense, also he sets up the false dichotomy of "scientists" and "religious people" when one person can be both

 

[ReformedChapin]

Really?

Most college professors I know are secular humanists, they love to bash christianity even if they don't understand it. Doesn't do much good if you try to correct them, they are a prideful bunch with their PhDs.

 

[desmalia]

An example of what was believed to be spontaneous generation is when a piece of meat goes bad and worms develop. There was a time when they believed that the worms just "spontaneously generated" in the meat. It was a commonly held belief until scientists further understood about fly eggs that are too small for the eye to see, etc.

So for the teacher to say what he did was bad on two counts: 1) that he used it as an excuse to slam "religious people", and 2) that he gave incorrect information to a student because he didn't bother to research the subject himself before "teaching" about it.

 

[BigNorsk]

The belief that life came about through evolution is just spontaneous generation over a long period of time.

Being created is of course not spontaneous. And the historic Christian understanding was properly explained as God created out of nothing, ex nihilo. Not out of himself. That would seem to say creation was of the same substance as the Father which it is not.

Marv

 

[edie19]

Well actually this teacher is lacking in logic, that is quite clear. Because evolutionists are the ones that believe that we came from nothing by no means and became something through random (spontaneous) selection that arose randomly from spontaneity. You see spontaneous essentially means

So if nothing was planned then that would be evolution since there was/is no order or planning involved in life what so ever, according to the evolutionist. So this teacher is off the mark and doesn't know what she is supposed to be teaching, maybe she should consider changing her itinerary since she is unfamiliar with the one she is supposedly supporting.

Sealacamp

glad to see it only took 4 responses for someone to bring this one up

and while desmalia's explanation of spontaneous generation is correct and it (sg) has been pretty much discounted for several centuries - I know that I absolutely did not evolve from a bunch of amino acids floating around in primordial soup that happened to come together and be shocked into life by a bolt of lightening (or some other external energy source)

 

[desmalia]

and while desmalia's explanation of spontaneous generation is correct and it (sg) has been pretty much discounted for several centuries - I know that I absolutely did not evolve from a bunch of amino acids floating around in primordial soup that happened to come together and be shocked into life by a bolt of lightening (or some other external energy source)

Del Tackett refers to that as "goo-man".

 

[edie19]

Del Tackett refers to that as "goo-man".

probably where the movie "The Blob" came from (what was Steve McQueen thinking when he agreed to make that movie )

 

[desmalia]

probably where the movie "The Blob" came from (what was Steve McQueen thinking when he agreed to make that movie )