its business as usual. years ago, I wrote a stump speech for a central california politician that invoked theravada buddhism for the Laotian crowd.
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its business as usual. years ago, I wrote a stump speech for a central california politician that invoked theravada buddhism for the Laotian crowd.
Which is why people who believe they way they do get so bent out of shape.
Elected officials are meant to represent the "will" of the people. Misrepresentation sends the wrong message/confusion.I could touch on this, but, I think, I already have with the first response given?
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Which is why people who believe they way they do get so bent out of shape.
I'd rather have my representative represent my will. forget the People.
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Sorry, took humor once again.Yes. Well, fortunately ((or perhaps unfortunately (in your case)), the government doesn't function that way.
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Yes. Well, fortunately ((or perhaps unfortunately (in your case)), the government doesn't function that way.
sure it does. you're looking at it from the wrong point of view. the pols represent whoever put them or keeps them in office, meaning, the big donors, the groups that get out the mass votes. you know if you're represented when the congressman's chief of staff returns your call.
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I sleep very well at night, knowing that the local stooges we put in office are staying bought.
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I'm trying not to be overly cynical about all this, but that's basically how things work in america. politicians respond to whoever puts them in office. people contribute to campaigns because that gives them access to the decision makers. its a workable system here and pols can go to jail if they don't play by the rules.
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On the contrary, you are not a clear thinker. I doubt that you even read anything I wrote, if over 50 words. My writing here has been very clear, when actually read.
But it takes a certain amount of intelligence and a basic understanding of the DOI to begin to appreciate the basic points I have made.
Warrior angel, and AMDG, and many others have fully understood those points, even if over 50 words.
Of course if you are going in with the presumption that this is an Obama-bashing moment or jamming God down the throats of atheists, I could state not thrice but 1000 times that this is not the intent, and you would still give the same answer. My words will only take on the meaning that you presume them to.
But try on to teach Ayn Rand to a fifth grader.
It is impossible.
Try to sum her up in 50 words or less to a fifth grader.
It is impossible.
However,
Try teaching the DOI to a fifth grade.
It is pure simplicity.
That is all that I meant, but you only want to prescribe the worst possible motives to everyone, so this simple meaning will never be heard.
You are not a fifth grader. You know Ayn Rand. The DOI was written for a nation at war. It therefore is written at a more basic level that does not take a huge amount of intellect to be understood and to rally the troops around a very basic set of values.
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I get what youre saying J
Didnt Obama affirm that he wouldnt do such a thing? Chicago political machine, or something? Or has it now become:
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If this is the case why should he be elected to a second term? If he cannot successfully fulfill any of his words, I dont think he should be in office.
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like most politicians, he said what people wanted to hear, but I doubt that anyone actually thought he'd make good on that particular promise.
he's given enough reasons to elect someone else because he's done exactly what he promised to.
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Exactly my point!!
Ayn Rand will never be the driving force behind any popular revolutions.
Even as she arrives at the same Point B from her Point A, exactly how she got there is not very clear.
Not something I could explain in 50 words or less.
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the point was that God is not universally accepted as the only source of human rights for constitutional governments. I could find a dozen other sources just as valid.
you chose to misread the argument, which does not surprise me in the least.
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