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[solid_core]

That has always been the case -- but Christ informs us in Matthew 24 that there are signs of the 2nd coming to know "when it is near... right at the door"

"33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door."

If you, the pre-trib people, were not saying this every year for whole my life, I would probably be more willing to listen to you.

Whatever happens, be it war or earthquake or hurricane or virus or a democratic president or something with Israel or Iran or Russia or EU or whatever, you will always appear and alarm that the world is going to end.

 

[charsan]

CDC states that this virus will spread to 70% of Americans -- that is 245 million in the US alone.
Current mortality rate is around 3% -- so that is 7.3 million death predicted over the next 2 years.

Q:What was the last war in all of US history where we lost 7 million?
A: Never happened.

Q: did we lose 7 million in 1918 with Spanish Flu?
A: 675,000 died in America with Spanish Flu 1918... not even 1 million
And that was 50 million that died world-wide in 1918.

If 70% of the 7 billion get this flu... then 4.9 billion will be infected over the next 2 years
So if the world wide number 3 % mortality - then that's 147 million world wide.

No wonder the nations are taking ever increasing drastic measures to address the crisis.

CDC reports that men in all categories are twice as likely to get this as women.

You keep thinking it's the end. I'll have hope that a cure is coming real soon.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Why has God not taken this virus away? I don't want to die, I don't want my wife to die, I don't want my in-laws to die.

Please God take this away from us, please forgive us our sin.

The world spurns God, rejects His ways and persecutes His people. This virus is a result of people violating God's principles for healthy eating. God has not abandoned humanity, humanity has abandoned God. God's judgement is simple. Romans 1 shows us that God leaves us to our own ways. The mess that is the world today is entirely the work of man.

On a practical note, the death rate from this virus is low. Most fatalities are people with existing medical conditions that make them more vulnerable.

 

[Basil the Great]

Some will say that the virus is punishment from God, for how mankind is living in this present age. While I will not make such a claim, anything is possible.

 

[dogs4thewin]

You keep thinking it's the end. I'll have hope that a cure is coming real soon.

I think the more people stay home the easier it will be to control.

 

[charsan]

and when the meds come together it will be easier to cure too.

 

[BobRyan]

CDC states that this virus will spread to 70% of Americans -- that is 245 million in the US alone.
Current mortality rate is around 3% -- so that is 7.3 million death predicted over the next 2 years.

Q:What was the last war in all of US history where we lost 7 million?
A: Never happened.

Q: did we lose 7 million in 1918 with Spanish Flu?
A: 675,000 died in America with Spanish Flu 1918... not even 1 million
And that was 50 million that died world-wide in 1918.

If 70% of the 7 billion get this flu... then 4.9 billion will be infected over the next 2 years
So if the world wide number 3 % mortality - then that's 147 million world wide.

No wonder the nations are taking ever increasing drastic measures to address the crisis.

CDC reports that men in all categories are twice as likely to get this as women.

Those facts don't "change" because someone does not like them... I guess we all know that.

You keep thinking it's the end. I'll have hope that a cure is coming real soon.

That would be great -- just like every Earthquake and hurricane will have a "disaster recovery" effort that follows it to rebuild homes.

The issue is not "does a flood end at some point" -- rather it is "what is coming?".

The people of Noah's day were "hoping for a better future".
The Jews of Christ's day were "hoping for a better future".

But the fact is that the second coming means "the end of the world". Every Christian that is praying for the 2nd coming to happen - is by that act also praying for this world as we know it to end soon.

Rev 22: 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
1 Peter 4:7 7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer."

God did not foretell "the day and hour" as to when to enter the ark - when telling Noah to build it - only that he would know when to enter the ark.

So the "plan" we have from God's word is to pay attention to the "signs of the time"

#1. the Bible gives us a timeline telling us that what we are in is the "time of the End".
#2. In Lev 18:25 gives us a list of things which end the probation for even a pagan nation. We keep "crossing those lines" even in America - as of late.
#3. Matt 24 says that when you "see all these signs" you know "that it is near". We have seen them.
#4. Matt 24 – the Gospel goes to the entire world – then the end comes. We are there with world wide coverage in radio, shortwave, internet…
#5. Matt 24 – 1260 years of the dark ages – persecution (great tribulation) never to be repeated.
#6. Dan 12 – the book of Daniel is unsealed --- (the End of Time)

Daniel 8:17
So he came near to where I was standing, and when he came I was frightened and fell on my face; but he said to me, “Son of man, understand that the vision pertains to the time of the end.”

Daniel 8:19
He said, “Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of the end.

Daniel 12:4
But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.”

In addition some things that "just so happen" along with Covid19
1. Plagues of "Biblical proportions" in Somalia and Pakistan - locusts plague over 100 miles wide.
2. Rev 16:12 "Euphrates River dried up" -- yep. Even though this is symbolic it "just so happens" that it is literally that way in the river basin at this moment for the Euphrates.
3. Rev 14:7 - the three angels messages currently being proclaimed all over the world.

Other signs
1. Corona Virus – history making and .. Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
2. Variations in Orion’s Betelgeuse star upper left shoulder – dimming and losing mass while cooling

1 Peter 4:17
For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

 

[BobRyan]

If you, the pre-trib people, were not saying this every year for whole my life, I would probably be more willing to listen to you.

I see.. Does it matter to you that I am not pre-trib or mid-trib and I do not believe in the "secret rapture"??

 

[solid_core]

I see.. Does it matter to you that I am not pre-trib or mid-trib and I do not believe in the "secret rapture"??

If you are still into "the end is coming" stuff, looking for signs around you, then I do not think the point changes.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

... removed post .... thought it might do more harm than good.

 

[JacksBratt]

Why has God not taken this virus away? I don't want to die, I don't want my wife to die, I don't want my in-laws to die.

Please God take this away from us, please forgive us our sin.

I think that He doesn't take it away for the same reason that He doesn't stop all car crashes, mental illnesses, drug related issues, gangs, government and corporate corruption... etc..

This virus is just part of the fallen world. It is not a "judgement" on the world or on those that get it, anymore than you stubbing your toe or spilling your coffee on your keyboard..

Things happen in this life. It is life that we all must live. This virus will run it's course, people will die, people will live.

It is appointed unto men once to die... Nobody gets out alive.

Wash your hands and don't touch your face. Pray for strong immune systems and that people know Christ.... You could survive the virus and get struck by lightening.

 

[JacksBratt]

I see.. Does it matter to you that I am not pre-trib or mid-trib and I do not believe in the "secret rapture"??

What is this "secret rapture"?

 

[Dave.lyre]

Why has God not taken this virus away? I don't want to die, I don't want my wife to die, I don't want my in-laws to die.

Please God take this away from us, please forgive us our sin.

Amen

 

[renniks]

CDC states that this virus will spread to 70% of Americans -- that is 245 million in the US alone.
Current mortality rate is around 3% -- so that is 7.3 million death predicted over the next 2 years.

Q:What was the last war in all of US history where we lost 7 million?
A: Never happened.

Q: did we lose 7 million in 1918 with Spanish Flu?
A: 675,000 died in America with Spanish Flu 1918... not even 1 million
And that was 50 million that died world-wide in 1918.

If 70% of the 7 billion get this flu... then 4.9 billion will be infected over the next 2 years
So if the world wide number 3 % mortality - then that's 147 million world wide.

No wonder the nations are taking ever increasing drastic measures to address the crisis.

CDC reports that men in all categories are twice as likely to get this as women.

No reason to believe it's going to Last for years. The virus dies if not spread quickly. China is already coming out of the worst of it.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

No reason to believe it's going to Last for years. The virus dies if not spread quickly. China is already coming out of the worst of it.

I don’t think the virus is the biggest problem but the economic aftermath that will be problematic to get into focus.

 

[Sunshinee777]

Why has God not taken this virus away? I don't want to die, I don't want my wife to die, I don't want my in-laws to die.

Please God take this away from us, please forgive us our sin.

Why there is homeless people, and handfull of people who have so much money that they could buy houses for these all homeless people and feed all the people in this earth (but they won´t do it) because we live in the fallen world, and evil tries to make everything to kill the light of this world. So be the light of this world, even it kills you. Bless you all good people. Stay strong in faith

 

[renniks]

I don’t think the virus is the biggest problem but the economic aftermath that will be problematic to get into focus.

I agree.

 

[Messianic Gentile]

Why has God not taken this virus away? I don't want to die, I don't want my wife to die, I don't want my in-laws to die.

I don't wish to sound insensitive, but Adonai (God) tells us that it is appointed for all of us a time to die. We are not going to die ahead of that time, or after that time. We have a time set for our graduation.

To answer your question as to why Adonai hasn't removed this Virus from the earth.

Psalm 23. All Christians learn the psalm very early in life. Many non-Christians even know it.

A psalm of David:

(1) Adonai is my shepherd; I lack nothing.
2 He has me lie down in grassy pastures,
he leads me by quiet water,
3 he restores my inner person.
He guides me in right paths
for the sake of his own name.
4 Even if I pass through death-dark ravines,
I will fear no disaster; for you are with me;
your rod and staff reassure me.

CJB Complete Jewish Bible.

Notice Adonai (God) doesn't say He will take away dark ravines or in the KJV Valley of the shadow of death. Adonai says He will walk those Valleys with us. Dark troubles strenghtens our faith. Which is probably why Adonai has us walk through them. He wants us to walk in faith not fear, because He is always with us.

"I will never leave you nor forsake you." Adonai's promise to us.

Don't let this virus or any other problem in life, cause you to live in fear. Fear comes from the evil one, not Adonai.

We as servants of Yeshua (Jesus) have been told by Him, that we will face troubles, but to not fear. Death has no victory over us. From the moment we accepted Yeshua as HaMashiach (The Annointed One or Messiah) We shall not die but graduate from this life to the next. Remember the song. Victory in Jesus.

 

[BobRyan]

No reason to believe it's going to Last for years. The virus dies if not spread quickly. China is already coming out of the worst of it.

Hopefully China is giving out accurate information.

 

[BobRyan]

I don't wish to sound insensitive, but Adonai (God) tells us that it is appointed for all of us a time to die. We are not going to die ahead of that time, or after that time. We have a time set for our graduation.

At the flood - the entire planet "graduated all at once" - except for 8 people