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A Riddle For Atheists - Evolutionists Can't Handle This One

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The following information comes from Perry Marshall:

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1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.

If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you've toppled my proof. All you need is one.

Perry Marshall

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If you agree with points 1 to 3 above, guess what......you are a creationist.

For more very interesting material from the author above check here:

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/ifyoucanreadthis.htm
1, argument from authority

2, no proof that DNA is language, therefore, your entire argument is void

Im starting to think MandM is a troll, just like Kenthovindisawesome.
 
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The following information comes from Perry Marshall:

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1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.

If you can provide an empirical example of a code or language that occurs naturally, you've toppled my proof. All you need is one.

Perry Marshall

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If you agree with points 1 to 3 above, guess what......you are a creationist.

For more very interesting material from the author above check here:

http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/ifyoucanreadthis.htm

Wow! Not only is that a lousy argument, it would appear you do not know the meaning of "Riddle".
 
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If you go to a river and analyse the composition of the deposits in the silt; you will find that gold and other heavy metals are concentrated in areas where the water flow is not capable of carrying those particles therefore a deposit is built up. Subsequently one can either assume that a conscious being placed the heavy particles there or that they naturally were deposited there by the actions resulting from the laws of physics. Likewise DNA was either designed by a conscious being or it merely occurred through the rules of chemistry hence physics.
As for DNA not being natural because it does not exist in space; consider this:

All the elements that are the foundation of all living things are commonly found in the universe. All matter is made up of the same stuff.

Simply put; it matters not if you are on the moon or in your living room. Everything has to follow the fundamental and natural laws of physics. That includes God also!
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MandM is a troll. He puts up a laughable argument and then runs away - rarely seen to defend it. This is but another example.


I am most definitely not a troll.

My arguments are certainly not laughable.

Nor am I able to spend 24 hours a day on this forum.

Nothing seems to convince some of you.

Perhaps, when what Prophet Tom Deckard has prophesied comes true you will be convinced:

http://www.jewishprophet.com/End Time Messenger/Warning.htm
 
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Do we find DNA in Outer Space? Did we discover DNA on the Moon? Is DNA found in meteors? If not, it isn't a "natually occurring" phenomenon. It is quite unique to unique living things on this unique planet.
Viruses are NOT unique living things on this planet, yet they carry RNA and other enzymes as well, like reverse transcriptase and DNA Polymerase.

So, the logical reasoning isn't very logical!
 
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1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind.

Congrats, you have proven that the Invisible Pink Unicorn exists!

Or... you're just begging the question with loaded terms.
 
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Tom Deckard is a charlatan and a fraud suitable only for consumption by the gullible.

Well, yeah, but he's got that delightfully tangy aftertaste of fire an' brimstone, which Thaumaturgy finds so appealing...
 
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Really? Have you ever looked at DNA? Do you realise what we find if we actually look?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1zeWWIm5M

HA! Evo filth! You cannot PROVE the Designer did not Design Chromosome #2 to make it look like it was made of two fused chromosomes can you!??????!!!???????!!!!

NO! YOU CANNOT!!111

Therefore, Creationism Wins Again!!!!!!1111111111
 
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HA! Evo filth! You cannot PROVE the Designer did not Design Chromosome #2 to make it look like it was made of two fused chromosomes can you!??????!!!???????!!!!

NO! YOU CANNOT!!111

Therefore, Creationism Wins Again!!!!!!1111111111

No, you see the problem is that that is an ad-hoc... aw screw it, I can't be bothered, Split ;)
 
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DNA is not a code. It is a string of chemicals.


A string of chemicals that contains information so amazingly complex that we are only starting to be able to understand it.

But all of that encoded information happened purely by accident, eh?

And you call yourself intelligent............

:confused:
 
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A string of chemicals that contains information so amazingly complex that we are only starting to be able to understand it.

But all of that encoded information happened purely by accident, eh?

And you call yourself intelligent............

:confused:


Well, we're certainly not calling you intelligent -- you think that anything we haven't figured out yet must be the work of a God.

I suppose the Holy Spirit designed your computer as well?
 
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A string of chemicals that contains information so amazingly complex that we are only starting to be able to understand it.

We know enough to do some pretty neat things, though...

But all of that encoded information happened purely by accident, eh?

Do you know the difference between 'accidental' and 'random'..?

Didja know that natural selection is among the most non-random set of selection criteria to be found in the scientific community..?
 
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A string of chemicals that contains information so amazingly complex that we are only starting to be able to understand it.

But all of that encoded information happened purely by accident, eh?

And you call yourself intelligent............

:confused:


I'm sure you'll next be telling us the god's pinky makes protein's fold just-so...nevermind that the arrangement of folds might be suboptimal for it's purpose in that species...
 
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A string of chemicals that contains information so amazingly complex that we are only starting to be able to understand it.

But all of that encoded information happened purely by accident, eh?

And you call yourself intelligent............

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1) This is an argument from incredulity, just because you don't know how it happened doesn't mean that it was designed.
2) Chemical reactions are anything but random. Under a certain set of conditions the reaction will carry out the exact same way every single time. Or is the reaction between NaOH and HCl also a code for the production of H[sub]2[/sub]O and NaCl?
3) By invoking a designer/creator because life is complicated strongly suggests that the designer is more complex than us. Therefore, since we were designed by a higher being, so was the designer, and the designer's designer, and the designer designer's designer, etc into infinity. At one point this designer will have to have appeared spontaneously. It's just that with abiogenesis that step is much lower on the designer ladder. And by the way, it's possible to synthesize all the compounds that compose DNA.
 
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