A review of what the New Testament says about the Great Babylon

[Fisherking]

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8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day(Day of the Lord which lasts for 1260 days), death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. (We see 1/3 of the WHOLE WORLDS trees burn, now I think the 1/3 is a DESTINATION, the New World only gets hit by the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact, and the Pacific Ocean it hits in just off California covers 1/3 of the earths surface while the New World has roughly 1/3 of the worlds Landmass. But God will juddge the Old World with different plagues)

9 And the kings of the earth,(Not ONE CITY, the whole earth has played the prostitute with Satan/Babylon's Ruler) who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her(Men in the whole world LUST, STEAL & LIE, to get ahead in this EVIL WORLD), shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, (These men living during the 70th week events, were used to having all that they love at their feet, free sex, lust, greed, hate, all whilst refusing to acknowledge God in their knowledge, but now they CRY & LAMENT the whole world burning, her demise, her judgment, Babylon/the world is all in ruins, all they TRUSTED IN is going up in flames, they did not trust in God they trusted in greed over God, and now their whole world has come crashing down upon them)

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment(Seal #6 says they are going to be HIDING IN CAVES. but God knows what their HEARTS ARE CRYING OUT), saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come(in ONE HOUR references Rev. 17:12, the 10 horns rule ONE HOUR with The Beast, which we know is 1260 days or 42 months)

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her(The BURNING WORLD); for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: (Well, of course not, they are now all HIDIING in caves or DEAD, the world has lost her freedom to love evil, and many of her clientele are dead)

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, (These Rich Merchants now HIDE IN CAVES, they cry and lament the WHOLE WORLDS BURNING & JUDGMENT, they trusted in WORLDY THINGS over God, and now those WORLDY THINGS are worth nothing !! So, they cry and weep in torment)

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city(WHOLE WORLD), that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. (There is now JUDGMENT for 42 months upon the WHOLE WORLD, no more TRADING world wide like we see today, people are hiding from the Wrath of God, or dead)

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; (Babylon has FALLEN, has FALLEN, means Satan is locked in the Bottomless Pit)

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee;(Meaning THE CHURCH has been Raptured Pre Trib. and is not on earth during these 70th week Events, Amen) and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. (BOOM.....The Church is not on this evil earth at this time)

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

IN HER was found the blood of [ALL] the Prophets & Saints which can only be the WHOLE WORLD, not ONE CITY. You have to understand God's Prophetic Prose my friend. Jesus spoke in parables so his disciples hearing could understand, but so the world hearing would not understand.

 

[znpaaneah]

No they do not point to the USA, they are on m any waters, which = the whole world has False Religion comingled with False Governance. You guys get an idea in your mind and that one idea consumes you no matter what the facts say. I showed you Rev. 16:19 where God calls those He defeats at Armageddon Babylon the Great in Vial #7, then I referred you to Vial #6 which shows they were the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD, tats a SLAM DUNK to anyone using logical logistics brother.

Sub in Babylon/City with WORLD. The Greedy men of THE WORLD cry and lament for THE WORLDS destruction, for the economies destruction etc. I will do the whole chapter.

Rev. 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. (Babylon = Satan's Dark Rule over mankind on this earth, thus when he is cast down at the midway point the earth or WORLD is now inhabited by who? Devils/Demons)

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. (This is God in Rev. 7 calling Israel to come out of Babylon or THE WORKLD or to Flee Judea/WORLD, and go the the Petra/Bozrah protection zone)

5 For her(the WHOLE WPORLDS Sins not one city not just the USA) sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. (Traits of GREEDY, WORLDLY MEN)

This is not an item of the faith. I have been studying this topic for more than 40 years and so far nothing you have said is any different from some old doctrines I studied years ago. If you want to believe that, so be it. I am not trying to convince you. I have presented what I need to. and what you do with it is up to you. I believe this doctrine will be most helpful to those left behind and for them it should be quite obvious that the US was judged by God as the Great Babylon.

 

[Fisherking]

This is not an item of the faith. I have been studying this topic for more than 40 years and so far nothing you have said is any different from some old doctrines I studied years ago. If you want to believe that, so be it. I am not trying to convince you. I have presented what I need to. and what you do with it is up to you. I believe this doctrine will be most helpful to those left behind and for them it should be quite obvious that the US was judged by God as the Great Babylon.

One verse destroys your whole thesis my friend, Rev. 16:19 is God telling us WHO Babylon the Great is, the KINGS OF THE WHOLE WORLD. Its simple stuff.

You have too much invested in the USA being Babylon even though it is not nor can be, some are invested in Mecca, some in NYC, some in Jerusalem, all because they refuse to follow ALL THE CLUES. Do not get into a situation where you blindside your own self my friend via a blind-spot.

By the way, if the whole world is Babylon, that makes the USA a huge part of it, as is the whole world in general. The New World is what burns, the old world will not burn, why? Because Jesus will rule from the Old World !! The Plagues that kill and Armageddon wipes out the wicked from the Old World.

 

[Marilyn C]

Who is the Great Babylon

I have heard many different theories, and every theory I have heard has been based on the Bible, but none of them put together all the pieces.

Matthew 1:11 and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.

This is the first use of Babylon in the New Testament and it is used three times in chapter 1 of Matthew, every time with a reference to this word translated here as "deportation" (metoikesia).

Definition of metoikesia -- removal from one abode to another, esp. a forced removal

In the Old Testament there was a removal of people from Israel to Babylon. How about in the church age? This is a key criteria to identify Babylon in the New Testament. I think it is simple to eliminate Iraq, in all of the church history there has not been a great removal of people from one place to Iraq. I think we can also eliminate the Vatican. They might be the puppeteer but certainly there has been no great removal of people to go live in the Vatican. In fact, when I visited Taiwan and Asia that is what struck me, how homogenous the population was. There has not been a great removal of people to go live in Asia. No, during the last two thousand years there has been one great removal of people to go live in the New World. That can refer to both North and South America, but primarily it would refer to the US.

Hi znpaaneah,

God`s word tells us that the city of Babylon (in Iraq) will house the world`s religion, economics and Politics. The ancient city of Babylon is predicted to be judged by God and never be inhabited again. This has not happened yet. And today Babylon is being rebuilt.

 

[znpaaneah]

Hi znpaaneah,

God`s word tells us that the city of Babylon (in Iraq) will house the world`s religion, economics and Politics. The ancient city of Babylon is predicted to be judged by God and never be inhabited again. This has not happened yet. And today Babylon is being rebuilt.

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No verse is of its own interpretation. We can take any verse in any prophecy and make some doctrine out of it, the question I have is how does this fit with all the other Bible verses? There is a tremendous amount of prophetic verses indicating that the millennial kingdom is the seventh day, and the first six days are six thousand years. Now there is a lot of debate over when Jesus was crucified on the cross. However, we do know that it is between 30AD and 33AD. In Hosea we are told that the Lord will enliven Israel at the end of the second day from when He left (ascension day, the same year He was crucified) and He will lift them up on the third day. Therefore, I feel the last possible day that is still the 2nd day after He left is the Spring of 2033 (however I feel the evidence is compelling that He was crucified in 32 AD). That is one prophecy that puts a time limit on when the Day of the Lord is, the last seven years described in Revelation prior to the millennial kingdom. Another prophecy is Jesus saying that the Fig tree sprouting is a big sign and that this generation will be no means pass away until all these things take place (the things described in Matt 24, it includes everything up to but not including Armageddon). Psalm 90 says a generation is 70 years, 80 if you are strong (obstinate, rebellious). On Israel's 70th birthday the US moved their embassy to Jerusalem. So I think it is fair to begin the count on May 14, 1948. Moses was counting in decades so technically 70 = 65 --> 74 and 80 = 75 -->84. By the way Jacob was 84 when he married Rachel and Leah. Also, Israel was 75 when Hamas attacked in 2023 so that is a second support for us to count from 1948. The fig tree is first mentioned when Adam and Eve fell, it is associated with the fall of man and it is not the national tree of Israel. So it could also refer to all human government. The UN was formed in 1945 and 75 years later was 2020 when the WHO declared that we had a worldwide Pandemic. The UN will be 84 in 2029 and according to the book of Revelation the UN one world government gets replaced with the Antichrist reign at some point, likely the middle of the seven year period described in Revelation. As a result you can look at this fig tree prophecy and see it referring to both Israel and the UN and in both cases it is pointing to 2032 as the last year of the seven year period described in Revelation.

So then will they rebuild Babylon in this timeframe? Will they rebuild it in perilous times as it seems certain this war with Iran will heat up in the next few days or months and will fulfill the prophecy about God breaking Elam's bow.

 

[znpaaneah]

When I was a new Christian I heard the doctrine that Israel has to rebuild the temple. I thought that would be the fire alarm, you see them rebuilding the temple you know the day of the Lord is here. But I never saw any verse in the Bible that says they must rebuild the temple or that they would. There are some Greek words that are mistranslated as temple, the word is actually the word for the Holy place which includes the Holy of Holies. Yes, that would be inside the temple if you rebuilt the temple, but it would also be inside the tabernacle if you were to raise the tabernacle again. That is not irrelevant because there is a prophecy that Israel is going to raise the tabernacle of David again. The second reason people use for Israel needing to rebuild the temple is that they have resumed the oblations and sacrifices. I heard an interview with a Rabbi who is considered to be an authoritative voice on this topic in Israel and he said they don't need the temple to resume oblations and sacrifices. All they need is an altar on the temple mount and the way he described it that altar would be a pile of stones that could be built in a single hour given enough strong men to carry up the stones.

Therefore beware of doctrines that give you a false sense of security that until we see this the Lord will not return. The Jews could restart the oblations and sacrifices the same week as the rapture without any prior notice.

Sanhedrin Appoints High Priest in Preparation for Third Temple

"The only obstacle preventing the Temple service today is the political issue. If that should suddenly change, as it very well could, we would be required to begin the Temple service immediately."

israel365news.com

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Sanhedrin Appoints High Priest in Preparation for Third Temple​

Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz​

Biblical News​

August 29, 2016​

Asignificant step was recently taken towards reinstating the Temple service when the nascent Sanhedrin selected Rabbi Baruch Kahane as the next Kohen Gadol (high priest). The selection was made as a precaution for Yom Kippur. If the political conditions should change, allowing the Jews access to the Temple Mount, they will be required by Torah law to bring the sacrifices. Rabbi Kahane is confident that if that should happen, Temple service could begin in less than one week.

 

[Marilyn C]

So then will they rebuild Babylon in this timeframe? Will they rebuild it in perilous times as it seems certain this war with Iran will heat up in the next few days or months and will fulfill the prophecy about God breaking Elam's bow.

The UN and USA have been rebuilding Babylon for over a decade. Think how quickly the Arabs went from tents to great world class cities. Babylon only has to house the Global infrastructure as the Global center.

Zech. 5: 5 - 11 shows that the false religion (woman - wickedness) in the ephod (economic measure) is taken over to the land of Shinar. That is where Babylon is. The A/C sets up His Global Government there.

 

[shepherdsword]

Mystery Babylon is nothing other than the good ole United States. Isa 13, Jer 51 and Rev 18 all point to her dominion and destruction. The rabid woke LBGT sect is destined to take control and make her drunken on the blood of the saints. She is the great city that rules over the earth.

 

[Marilyn C]

Mystery Babylon is nothing other than the good ole United States. Isa 13, Jer 51 and Rev 18 all point to her dominion and destruction. The rabid woke LBGT sect is destined to take control and make her drunken on the blood of the saints. She is the great city that rules over the earth.

The USA does not have control of the world the UN (religiously/emotionally) does with its `save the earth` religion. Its moral laws - respect, tolerance, inclusiveness etc is right through every aspect of society. You can be fined or put in jail if you don`t adhere to them.

 

[shepherdsword]

The USA does not have control of the world the UN (religiously/emotionally) does with its `save the earth` religion. Its moral laws - respect, tolerance, inclusiveness etc is right through every aspect of society. You can be fined or put in jail if you don`t adhere to them.

The UN is a powerless paper tiger that would be even more ineffective if the USA didn't host them and pay their bills. It rules nothing.