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again... if you were mistaken, how would you ever know if you refuse to countenance any oposing points of view?
How do you know God isn't trying to show you how you are in error through Davedj?
What do you mean? I trust God's word as I understand it absolutely.
Further more, my understanding of God's word is not marred by all the implicet errors and self contradictions implicit in a literalist reading.
God's Word has not been consistently translated. Prove that it has, and you might actually have an argument.Professing that scripture is mistranslated in the one area that affects one's personal lifestyle is very indicative of agenda.
God's word is sufficiently translated for all of us. Picking it apart because one dislikes the message is a futile practice. In the end, you will have nothing but an argument with God, and you will lose.
I am often reminded of
1 Timothy 6:4
Anyone who teaches something different is arrogant and lacks understanding. Such a person has an unhealthy desire to quibble over the meaning of words. This stirs up arguments ending in jealousy, division, slander, and evil suspicions.
God's Word has not been consistently translated. Prove that it has, and you might actually have an argument.
This link does not lie:
http://www.jeramyt.org/gay/gaytrans.html
Until then, calling one's lifestyle satanic or a Satanic evil agenda, does not prove anything.
I don't have an argument with God, a loving God does not discriminate.
or genocide?
The link shows all the different ways 1 Cor. 6:9 have been translated by the different versions of the Bible. Not biased, try again.I don't open up biased links. That's just silly.
If you've been at this such a long time, why is that you still aren't making any credible debate points? Labeling information as biased (esp. before reading it) and Satanic agenda, aren't proper debate rebuttals.Floatingaxe said:I have been at this a LOOOOONG time, my dear. I am not mistaken...
declaring other people to be satanic agenda pushers is equally indicative of agendaProfessing that scripture is mistranslated in the one area that affects one's personal lifestyle is very indicative of agenda.
God's word is sufficiently translated for all of us. Picking it apart because one dislikes the message is a futile practice. In the end, you will have nothing but an argument with God, and you will lose.
I am often reminded of
1 Timothy 6:4
Anyone who teaches something different is arrogant and lacks understanding. Such a person has an unhealthy desire to quibble over the meaning of words. This stirs up arguments ending in jealousy, division, slander, and evil suspicions.
yep, if you go looking at ALL the evidence, you might find out you were mistaken in your original conclusion!I don't open up biased links. That's just silly.
That is a ridiculous couple of statements. You stand in judgment of God's Word from the standpoint of not understanding it or believing it.
We are to accept it even when it is hard to understand, and when it is in places, we are supposed to ask the Holy Spirit to speak to us about whay He is saying...when we do that, we see clearly that there are no contradictions or errors.
The Holy Spirit speaks to me and tells me to apply logic and science to my understanding of scripture... my way there are no contradictions. My way doesn't ionvolve bigotry and hatred of minorities. My way doesn't involve making contradictory statements like "all secular scientists lie" and then a few pages later "I trust doctors to discover anti-biotics in accordance with God's word". My way of interpreting scripture does not rely on a massive conspiracy theory amongst secular scientists and academics to make it coherent.That is a ridiculous couple of statements. You stand in judgment of God's Word from the standpoint of not understanding it or believing it.
We are to accept it even when it is hard to understand, and when it is in places, we are supposed to ask the Holy Spirit to speak to us about whay He is saying...when we do that, we see clearly that there are no contradictions or errors.
The Holy Spirit speaks to me and tells me to apply logic and science to my understanding of scripture... my way there are no contradictions. My way doesn't ionvolve bigotry and hatred of minorities. My way doesn't involve making contradictory statements like "all secular scientists lie" and then a few pages later "I trust doctors to discover anti-biotics in accordance with God's word". My way of interpreting scripture does not rely on a massive conspiracy theory amongst secular scientists and academics to make it coherent.
Mine's sounding pretty good don't you think?
The Holy Spirit speaks to me and tells me to apply logic and science to my understanding of scripture... my way there are no contradictions. My way doesn't ionvolve bigotry and hatred of minorities. My way doesn't involve making contradictory statements like "all secular scientists lie" and then a few pages later "I trust doctors to discover anti-biotics in accordance with God's word". My way of interpreting scripture does not rely on a massive conspiracy theory amongst secular scientists and academics to make it coherent.
Mine's sounding pretty good don't you think?
I don’t think you do, I think I do.I do trust the word of God. Absolutely.
No I think you work on feelings and wishful thinking and I go by the Holy Spirit and the word of God.I think its YOU who works on feelings and wishful thinking.
No you come up with a response.So, come up with a proof for which one of us is right, and which is wrong?
The problem I have with your claim here is that the Holy Spirit reminds us of all Jesus said and did (John 14) and as on this topic you are speaking against what Jesus said and did in favour of your logic and science this clearly can’t be the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit I know is the Spirit of God, He isn’t someone one can influence to one’s own way of thinking.The Holy Spirit speaks to me and tells me to apply logic and science to my understanding of scripture... my way there are no contradictions.
Well I wouldn’t say a view is bigotry and hatred of minorities, I don’t hate Muslims, I have friends who are Muslims, yet I reject their religion. But if you do think it is bigotry and hatred so be it, its ‘no skin off my nose’, perhaps if we looked at it the same way we would claim your views as bigotry and hatred of Christian minorities and the word of God.My way doesn't ionvolve bigotry and hatred of minorities.
The link shows all the different ways 1 Cor. 6:9 have been translated by the different versions of the Bible. Not biased, try again.
The link is biased before even reading the information? THAT is silly. Under your radar, anything that is pro-gay will immediately be deemed "biased" or, given a satanic evil agenda label. That isn't even debating OR making credible points here.
If you've been at this such a long time, why is that you still aren't making any credible debate points? Labeling information as biased (esp. before reading it) and Satanic agenda, aren't proper debate rebuttals.
declaring other people to be satanic agenda pushers is equally indicative of agenda
The Holy Spirit speaks to me and tells me to apply logic and science to my understanding of scripture... my way there are no contradictions. My way doesn't ionvolve bigotry and hatred of minorities. My way doesn't involve making contradictory statements like "all secular scientists lie" and then a few pages later "I trust doctors to discover anti-biotics in accordance with God's word". My way of interpreting scripture does not rely on a massive conspiracy theory amongst secular scientists and academics to make it coherent.
Mine's sounding pretty good don't you think?
explain
Not good enough.Anyone who knows God and His Word knows when someone is espousing something that is not agreeable to God and His ways.
No further explanation should be required.
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