A re-examination of nothing

[David Brider]

He made my feminine side gay!
tulc(who is heterosexual and was feeling left out)

He made me bi (I'm not going to be left out either) and blessed me with the most wonderful fiancee in the world.

David.

 

[David Brider]

Oh no, you killed Molly!

David.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

He made me bi (I'm not going to be left out either) and blessed me with the most wonderful fiancee in the world.

David.

Kk so its gotta ask, boy fiance or girl fiancee? Ahh bes the spelling the gender giveaway? A girl fiancee?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Ahh, OK. As long as we bes both clear on that ... :o
What bes significance of the fainting goat?

I was verklempt.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

meshugas! :o oy vey

 

[David Brider]

Kk so its gotta ask, boy fiance or girl fiancee? Ahh bes the spelling the gender giveaway? A girl fiancee?

Girl fiancee.

She's lovely. We're very happy together. I'm a bit loved up right now.

David.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Nice. When bes yr weddings?

 

[David Brider]

Nice. When bes yr weddings?

Next September. At the moment it feels like we've got time enough to make all the preparations we need to make...

David.

 

[davedjy]

Yuck. I wouldn't do that. I was responding to the parade perversions. I couldn't top those.

What "parade perversions"?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Hey...wait a minute.
I have the most wonderful partner ever!

Nope, sorry, gotcha both beat by miles. Both on the astral as also on the earth.

 

[savedandhappy1]

Hummmmmmmmmmmmm, I don't know Floatingaxe, if I stand on my head it looks like a floating calf.

 

[Chaplain David]

He made Moriah to be alternatively oriented as well -- not gay but something else. Well at the very least He permitted it to be so and joined Us together when He could have kept Us apart. What God hath joined together shall man presume to put asunder?

Romans 16:19-20...I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush satan under your feet.

I echo and pray for you acknowledging these words of Saint Paul.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

..

 

[Ohioprof]

Dear Moraih_Conquering_Wind,
What is meant is that God created woman for man to be in union, Satan tempted humans to disobey and now we know right from wrong, the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Satan doesnt have the power to alter creation, thats why the human species cant reproduce without male and female, but Satan can lead people to use God's creation in the wrong way.
But God is stronger thats why through the power of Jesus Christ people can follow God's created purposes.

By saying "what is meant," you are interpreting the Bible, which is what I have been pointing out to you for awhile now.

 

[Ohioprof]

Dear Ohioprof,
On the contrary there are about a dozen exclude it and condemn it as I have shown.
What I am looking for is some evidence from you to support your ideas, at present all you have is an assumption based on the rejection of the Biblical evidence I have put before you.

None of the verses you have presented either exclude same-sex marriage or condemn it. They do not mention it.

 

[Ohioprof]

You read the scriptures right?

You see where it talks about staying single, BUT IF YOU CAN'T EXERCISE SELF-CONTROL, then you should marry.

Jesus spoke of man leaving parents and taking a wife, just like God created them male and female, and told them to go forth and multiple. Jesus spoke of eunuchs, and the different kinds of eunuchs.

Common sense would say that if He felt it was important enough to speak of marriage between a man and a female, and the 3 kinds of eunuchs, that if another type of marriage or single person was excepted by God.................. it would have come up.

Also, like I mentioned in another thread Bishops/pastors are to be the husbands of one wife, and deacons are the same. Why would hetrosexuals be the only ones with rules/standards to hold these offices in the church?

The fact that you are asking me this. and saying "common sense would say," illustrates that you are interpreting the Bible, using what you see as common sense. Other Christians interpret the Bible differently from you, using their common sense.

 

[Ohioprof]

Dear Moraih_Conquering_Wind,
What is meant is that God created woman for man to be in union, Satan tempted humans to disobey and now we know right from wrong, the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Satan doesnt have the power to alter creation, thats why the human species cant reproduce without male and female, but Satan can lead people to use God's creation in the wrong way.
But God is stronger thats why through the power of Jesus Christ people can follow God's created purposes.

The concept of satan is just a concept, in my view. There is no actual satan. The capacity for doing evil is simply part of human nature. There is no satan causing humans to do evil.

And being gay, which is how God made some of us, and loving our spouses is NOT doing evil. It has nothing to do with any concept of "satan." People are simply not all the same, and that's what makes the world interesting and beautiful. Some people are gay, some people are bisexual, most people are heterosexual. It's God's expression through a diverse creation. That's what I think.

 

[Ohioprof]

Masturbation is definitely a sin under certain circumstances.

• Premarital masturbation is the same as having sex out of wedlock because the person doing it is usually fantasizing about another person.
• Masturbation while married but fantasizing about a person that one is not married to is equivalent to adultery.
• Homosexual masturbation is a sin because the practice of homosexuality is sin.

For Bible believing Christians the Bible is the only proof in these matters and no amount of spitting and sputtering weak arguments and questions challenging the veracity of Scripture is valid arguing as nothing can come against something as great as God's written word.

I do not plan on offering proof or rebuttal other than to say that these subjects are addressed in Scripture because I don't have the time to reiterate what has been said repeatedly and believed by Christians the world over and have it rebutted by "prove to me where it says that ......or your translation is wrong because...etc." which will in turn cause another flurry of your proof isn't accurate, prove to me that....

I don't need to prove it to anyone who is trying to discount it or give it meanings that are not there. What's important is that I accept it myself and I do.

I hope everyone has a nice day.

Two bibles I highly recommend are NKJV and NASB. George Lamsa's translation is pretty good.

I disagree with your interpretations of the Bible. Plenty of Christians disagree with your interpretations. Yes, there are Christians around the world who agree with your belief that "homosexuality is a sin." There are also Christians around the world who disagree with you about this. That's what is causing division in some of the churches. Different Christians disagree about what the Bible says on this topic, just as in the past Christians disagreed about what the Bible said about slavery and about racial segregation and about the proper role of women in the churches and about divorce and about how one is saved.

 

[Ohioprof]

As Jesus says even looking at another woman lustfully is committing adultery in ones heart, I don't think we can say masturbation isn't a sin.
SavedandHappy1 is right, the proof has been given and once again rejected.

Your interpretation of the Bible is not "proof." It's just your interpretation of the Bible.

 

[Ohioprof]

Masturbation is definitely a sin under certain circumstances.

• Premarital masturbation is the same as having sex out of wedlock because the person doing it is usually fantasizing about another person.
• Masturbation while married but fantasizing about a person that one is not married to is equivalent to adultery.
• Homosexual masturbation is a sin because the practice of homosexuality is sin.

For Bible believing Christians the Bible is the only proof in these matters and no amount of spitting and sputtering weak arguments and questions challenging the veracity of Scripture is valid arguing as nothing can come against something as great as God's written word.

I do not plan on offering proof or rebuttal other than to say that these subjects are addressed in Scripture because I don't have the time to reiterate what has been said repeatedly and believed by Christians the world over and have it rebutted by "prove to me where it says that ......or your translation is wrong because...etc." which will in turn cause another flurry of your proof isn't accurate, prove to me that....

I don't need to prove it to anyone who is trying to discount it or give it meanings that are not there. What's important is that I accept it myself and I do.

I hope everyone has a nice day.

Two bibles I highly recommend are NKJV and NASB. George Lamsa's translation is pretty good.

Directing me to different versions of the Bible is not going to convince me that you are right about homosexuality. I believe that you are wrong about homosexuality being a sin. I think that within the context of marriage, there is no sin in loving a spouse. We will just have to agree to disagree about this, it seems.