A Question

[Dave Darling]

Hi everyone,

I was in church last night when something came to me- Christ was conceived supernaturally by the Holy Spirit so he did not have original sin. My question is this, if he did not have original sin did he have to deal with the flesh or was He immune to that? The scripture says he was tested in all points but was without sin so I am leaning toward yes He had to deal with it but I could be wrong. Thanks

 

[Carl Emerson]

Good question.

He did not have an unredeemed nature to battle with, He had Satan, the world and the limitations of humanness.

He was tempted in every way like us but didn't have to contend with a rebellious nature.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Hi everyone,

I was in church last night when something came to me- Christ was conceived supernaturally by the Holy Spirit so he did not have original sin. My question is this, if he did not have original sin did he have to deal with the flesh or was He immune to that? The scripture says he was tested in all points but was without sin so I am leaning toward yes He had to deal with it but I could be wrong. Thanks

The Christian confession is that our Lord was in all ways like us, but without sin.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[BobRyan]

Hi everyone,

I was in church last night when something came to me- Christ was conceived supernaturally by the Holy Spirit so he did not have original sin. My question is this, if he did not have original sin did he have to deal with the flesh or was He immune to that? The scripture says he was tested in all points but was without sin so I am leaning toward yes He had to deal with it but I could be wrong. Thanks

He had to deal with issues of the flesh relating to hunger, thirst, being weary , exhausted etc. But He did not have the sinful nature's "bent" to rebellion. Rather like Adam he had a nature in harmony with the Word of God.

He was not born in need of a Savior. We are.

 

[BobRyan]

The scripture says he was tested in all points but was without sin so I am leaning toward yes He had to deal with it but I could be wrong. Thanks

Let's take a simple example - over indulgence of food, appetite eating poorly, eating too much etc.

He did not have our bent toward evil but He did conquer in this area in the case of his 40 fast from both food and water. He went far beyond us - in overcoming that one.

Another example -- the Bible says it is a sin to hate your neighbor/brother. When Christ being tortured by the Romans - He had the power with a simple thought to kill or at least "to change the mind" of the person torturing Him -- in the middle of being tortured He was not "allowed" to think certain thoughts that we could think and it would not be a sin.

 

[Blade]

maybe search more. I just mean to find out more info.. not that you don't.. I will stop now. Did it in fact this "original sin" come down from the parents or was it just from the father? Well whats written? "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned.”. Something to think about

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Hi everyone,

I was in church last night when something came to me- Christ was conceived supernaturally by the Holy Spirit so he did not have original sin. My question is this, if he did not have original sin did he have to deal with the flesh or was He immune to that? The scripture says he was tested in all points but was without sin so I am leaning toward yes He had to deal with it but I could be wrong. Thanks

I think the term "original sin" needs to be revamped.Original sin is an Augustinian doctrine that says everyone is born sinful. Some of what he taught may be questionable and needs further scrutiny.
Blessings

 

[chevyontheriver]

Hi everyone,

I was in church last night when something came to me- Christ was conceived supernaturally by the Holy Spirit so he did not have original sin. My question is this, if he did not have original sin did he have to deal with the flesh or was He immune to that? The scripture says he was tested in all points but was without sin so I am leaning toward yes He had to deal with it but I could be wrong. Thanks

Adam didn’t start with original sin. Nor Eve. Jesus had something better than merely being sinless.

 

[fhansen]

The primary aspect of the state known as “original sin” is autonomy/separation from God. This is a state of injustice, disorder, sin; creation is not meant to be outside of Gods will; man was made for communion with God and disorder, within himself, is the result of movement away from Him, outside of His perfect will.

Man did not gain something, sometimes called a “sin nature”, at the Fall, rather he lost something, which is union with God -and sin is then inevitable, it will flourish once that union is broken and man becomes his own “god”. That’s the world we live in, all a bunch of little gods running around, often in competition with each other.

Again, this is a state of disorder: Fallen man is lost, sick, dead in his alienated state. He needs God, the God Jesus came to reveal and reconcile us with. Then true righteousness can begin to take root and blossom in us, as is meant to be. Jesus always existed within this state of union with the Father. To the extent that man knows and loves God, existing in subjugation to Him defined and bound by mutual love, his justice and purpose are attained.

 

[ChetSinger]

According to the Eastern church, no one has original sin. Instead, we are born with ancestral sin, meaning that because we are descendants of Adam we are born mortal and will eventually die.

The Western church's acceptance of original sin led to the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception. That doctrine is not in the Eastern church because it doesn't need it.

Jesus was tempted in every way as we are, yet without sin.