A question I don't think creationists will answer.

[PsychoSarah]

OK. So the future will have A, B and C and D. The past also had A, B and C and D. That indicates they are similar. The present has C, Y, J and E.

Since when does the bible claim that the world will become as it was in Adam's time? More like it suggests the world will be destroyed and only heaven will remain, taking its place.

 

[dad]

Since when does the bible claim that the world will become as it was in Adam's time?

I said there were similarities. Both with Adam, and Noah's time. The tree of life will be in New Jerusalem, it was also in Eden. The lifespan in the 1000 year reign of Christ for men will be as Noah's day. The plants also will grow fast, and animals will change to an incredible degree.

More like it suggests the world will be destroyed and only heaven will remain, taking its place.

No, the Almighty is coming down TO a new earth to live forever. He is also coming to this ol earth first as is to start of our forever reign.

 

[AV1611VET]

I said there were similarities. Both with Adam, and Noah's time. The tree of life will be in New Jerusalem, it was also in Eden. The lifespan in the 1000 year reign of Christ for men will be as Noah's day. The plants also will grow fast, and animals will change to an incredible degree.



No, the Almighty is coming down TO a new earth to live forever. He is also coming to this ol earth first as is to start of our forever reign.

Do you ever get the feeling, dad, that you're trying to explain calculus to those who barely understand arithmetic?

 

[dad]

Do you ever get the feeling, dad, that you're trying to explain calculus to those who barely understand arithmetic?

I do feel that believers have great riches that the poor evos ought to avail themselves of. I should be a little careful about touting my math

 

[sfs]

Do you ever get the feeling, dad, that you're trying to explain calculus to those who barely understand arithmetic?

I think it's more like someone trying to explain The Romance of the Rose who thinks it's a book about a flower.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Do you ever get the feeling, dad, that you're trying to explain calculus to those who barely understand arithmetic?

Half the time I see comments like this made by believers to other believers. Not my fault that the bible is vague enough that multiple, vastly different interpretations can result.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not my fault that the bible is vague enough that multiple, vastly different interpretations can result.

Actually it is, but you wouldn't understand.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Actually it is, but you wouldn't understand.

No, elaborate as to how it is my fault the bible has multiple interpretations. Do not patronize me by assuming I won't understand

 

[AV1611VET]

No, elaborate as to how it is my fault the bible has multiple interpretations. Do not patronize me by assuming I won't understand

Then I won't patronize you and you can take a hike.

It's you guys that arc & spark that the Bible should be interpreted metaphorically.

Then you guys wonder why there are so many different interpretations.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then I won't patronize you and you can take a hike.

It's you guys that arc & spark that the Bible should be interpreted metaphorically.

Then you guys wonder why there are so many different interpretations.

If you want to assume that it is a holy book it is the only way to interpret it. All of its stories have been shown to be just that, stories.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Then I won't patronize you and you can take a hike.

It's you guys that arc & spark that the Bible should be interpreted metaphorically.

Then you guys wonder why there are so many different interpretations.

You honestly think only atheists interpret the bible differently than you? Did you forget Stratos, Queller, RickG, and others whom I can't think of off the top of my head don't take the bible literally but are also not atheists?

And let's not forget Aman777, who has a notably deviant biblical interpretation, and Oncedecieved, who actually doesn't interpret the bible literally word for word despite tending to pit herself against atheists in debates.

And the additional reminder of the many different denominations of Christianity.

 

[bhsmte]

No, elaborate as to how it is my fault the bible has multiple interpretations. Do not patronize me by assuming I won't understand

That is the default evasion technique; they do not understand.

Obviously, Christians don't understand either, which is why there are so many interpretations they disagree on.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you want to assume that it is a holy book it is the only way to interpret it. All of its stories have been shown to be just that, stories.

Then don't whine & moan that there are so many different interpretations.

We'll give you so many different ones, you'll have to like one of them!

If not ... then you guys must be awful hard to please.

(Unless, as I suspect, it's all an act.)

 

[PsychoSarah]

Then don't whine & moan that there are so many different interpretations.

We'll give you so many different ones, you'll have to like one of them!

If not ... then you guys must be awful hard to please.

(Unless, as I suspect, it's all an act.)

I don't personally mind people who view the bible as primarily allegorical. You don't have that position though.

 

[AV1611VET]

You honestly think only atheists interpret the bible differently than you? Did you forget Stratos, Queller, RickG, and others whom I can't think of off the top of my head don't take the bible literally but are also not atheists?

No, I sure don't.

But you guys don't whine & moan & have epileptic fits over their interpretations -- assuming they'll give you one.

No, instead you do backflips over those of us who aren't ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, and will be glad to tell you what we think.

Put another way, these others you mentioned won't rock the boat.

They're either afraid they'll chase you guys away down the alley and you'll never get saved; or else they have cognitive dissonance so strong that they can't make up their mind what they really believe, and wouldn't dare speculate for fear of ending up on FSBVD, or whatever that site is.

Or maybe something in-between.

Only they know.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No, I sure don't.

But you guys don't whine & moan & have epileptic fits over their interpretations -- assuming they'll give you one.

No, instead you do backflips over those of us who aren't ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, and will be glad to tell you what we think.

Put another way, these others you mentioned won't rock the boat.

They're either afraid they'll chase you guys away down the alley and you'll never get saved; or else they have cognitive dissonance so strong that they can't make up their mind what they really believe, and wouldn't dare speculate for fear of ending up on FSBVD, or whatever that site is.

Or maybe something in-between.

Only they know.

Nice how you completely neglected to address the rest of my post

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't personally mind people who view the bible as primarily allegorical.

Of course you don't -- they aren't a threat to you.

Those marshmallows couldn't lift a two-edged sword if they had to.

And if they did, they'd end up staggering around, "beating the air" with It, as Paul so aptly put it.

You don't have that position though.

You bet I don't.

What I believe is right up there in my profile that you investigate-before-you-communicate scientific methodists don't read (or understand).

 

[PsychoSarah]

Of course you don't.

Those marshmallows couldn't life a two-edged sword if they had to.

And if they did, they'd end up staggering around, "beating the air" with It, as Paul so aptly put it.

You bet I don't.

What I believe is right up there in profile that you investigate-before-you-communicate scientific methodists don't read (or understand).

Remember pride is a sin AV. Treating yourself as better than other people because of your beliefs is forgetting what your beliefs are supposed to represent

 

[TLK Valentine]

What I believe is right up there in my profile that you investigate-before-you-communicate scientific methodists don't read (or understand).

...or trust.

 

[AV1611VET]

...or trust.

That can stem from not fully understanding.