A question I don't think creationists will answer.

[bhsmte]

No, those three letters just make it a totally different word. Your attempt to use "creationism" inaccurately only shows that you have been a very dishonest person. Now I don't mind debating with creationists. I do get mad at dishonest creationists especially when their own religion tells you not to be dishonest.


Why in this debate is it the atheists that practically never lie? There are some honest Christians but they tend to be on the evolution side.

Common symptom, when personal belief, trumps reality.

 

[justlookinla]

No, those three letters just make it a totally different word. Your attempt to use "creationism" inaccurately only shows that you have been a very dishonest person. Now I don't mind debating with creationists. I do get mad at dishonest creationists especially when their own religion tells you not to be dishonest.


Why in this debate is it the atheists that practically never lie? There are some honest Christians but they tend to be on the evolution side.

Who's being dishonest? Example, please.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who's being dishonest? Example, please.

What!!!??

You are.

And I just gave you an example.

I would suggest that you reread my last post about ten times.

 

[justlookinla]

What!!!??

You are.

And I just gave you an example.

I would suggest that you reread my last post about ten times.

It's not dishonest to identify the creationist view of Darwinism as creationism. The 'ism' suffix denotes a certain viewpoint of creation and in the example of Darwinism, it's an inherently atheistic view that all of life was created solely by naturalistic mechanisms. It's a creation-ism viewpoint.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's not dishonest to identify the creationist view of Darwinism as creationism. The 'ism' suffix denotes a certain viewpoint of creation and in the example of Darwinism, it's an inherently atheistic view that all of life was created solely by naturalistic mechanisms. It's a creation-ism viewpoint.

Wrong, even you know it is dishonest.

I will let you think about your sin for a while.

I could also point out how when we first met you made a deal and then reneged on it.

Of course the rarest creature in the world is an honest creationist.

Do you seriously think that you can debate honestly? If you want respect it is the only way to go.

 

[PsychoSarah]

It's not dishonest to identify the creationist view of Darwinism as creationism. The 'ism' suffix denotes a certain viewpoint of creation and in the example of Darwinism, it's an inherently atheistic view that all of life was created solely by naturalistic mechanisms. It's a creation-ism viewpoint.

Then the word commune and Communism mean the same thing

 

[justlookinla]

Wrong, even you know it is dishonest.

I will let you think about your sin for a while.

I could also point out how when we first met you made a deal and then reneged on it.

Of course the rarest creature in the world is an honest creationist.

Do you seriously think that you can debate honestly? If you want respect it is the only way to go.

I'll continue to present the concept of Darwinist creationism and you continue to make your usual personal attacks, if that makes you feel better about yourself. This seems to be the method of 'discussion' you're most comfortable with. Doesn't really matter to me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'll continue to present the concept of Darwinist creationism and you continue to make your usual personal attacks, if that makes you feel better about yourself. This seems to be the method of 'discussion' you're most comfortable with. Doesn't really matter to me.

That is not a "personal attack". This is pointing a particular way that you are being dishonest. I don't do personal attacks. What you are doing is not a valid debating technique.

It seems when you are dishonest and others point it out to you that you interpret that as a "personal attack". That is not what is meant by that term here.

 

[bhsmte]

I'll continue to present the concept of Darwinist creationism and you continue to make your usual personal attacks, if that makes you feel better about yourself. This seems to be the method of 'discussion' you're most comfortable with. Doesn't really matter to me.

You have been unwilling to admit that Darwinist Creationism as you call it, is your personal invention. Are you willing to admit that now?

 

[justlookinla]

Then the word commune and Communism mean the same thing

Communism is the form of adherence to a commune type of living. Creationism is a form of adherence to a viewpoint of creation.

com·mune1
ˈkämˌyo͞on/
noun
1.
a group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities.


com·mu·nism
[kom-yuh-niz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

 

[justlookinla]

You have been unwilling to admit that Darwinist Creationism as you call it, is your personal invention. Are you willing to admit that now?

I admit that Darwinism has a view of creationism in it's belief system, thus Darwinist creationism.

It's interesting to watch the anger and malice from those who embrace Darwinist creationism yet deny it exists.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Communism is the form of adherence to a commune type of living. Creationism is a form of adherence to a viewpoint of creation.

com·mune1
ˈkämˌyo͞on/
noun
1.
a group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities.


com·mu·nism
[kom-yuh-niz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

You cannot seriously be comparing a group of people living together with a method of government as if they mean the same thing.

 

[bhsmte]

I admit that Darwinism has a view of creationism in it's belief system, thus Darwinist creationism.

It's interesting to watch the anger and malice from those who embrace Darwinist creationism yet deny it exists.

No, you just don't like it when people point out you are incorrect and misrepresenting and you play victim.

Now, lets see how honest you can be:

Do you admit that what you call; Darwinist Creationism, is your personal invention?

Lets see what you are made of.

 

[justlookinla]

You cannot seriously be comparing a group of people living together with a method of government as if they mean the same thing.

The same basic concept is in both, thus the 'ism'.

The basic concept of creation, i.e., the creation of humanity, has various views, each an 'ism' of creation. Darwinism has a certain creationist viewpoint, i.e., how humanity was created solely by naturalistic means, thus a view of creation-ism.

 

[lifepsyop]

I'll continue to present the concept of Darwinist creationism and you continue to make your usual personal attacks, if that makes you feel better about yourself. This seems to be the method of 'discussion' you're most comfortable with. Doesn't really matter to me.

Don't forget there is an Ignore feature. Instead of being tempted to respond to petty insults, it's better not to waste your time reading them in the first place.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Don't forget there is an Ignore feature. Instead of being tempted to respond to petty insults, it's better not to waste your time reading them in the first place.

You do realize that putting people on ignore for that reason isn't a win for you, right?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Don't forget there is an Ignore feature. Instead of being tempted to respond to petty insults, it's better not to waste your time reading them in the first place.

Yes, lifepsyop runs away from people that beat him debating too.

 

[bhsmte]

You do realize that putting people on ignore for that reason isn't a win for you, right?

It may be for him.

 

[justlookinla]

No, you just don't like it when people point out you are incorrect and misrepresenting and you play victim.

It's a difference between disagreement and mockery, ridicule and personal attacks on the individual, all which are typical of those who oppose those who embrace a theistic view of creation. The behavior of those who oppose those who embrace theistic creation has anger a common part of their behavior on the forum. Each person decides how to react to opposition, to disagreement.

Now, lets see how honest you can be:

Do you admit that what you call; Darwinist Creationism, is your personal invention?

Lets see what you are made of.

I'm made of the stuff which disagrees respectfully and doesn't use ridicule, malice or personal attacks in my behavior toward those who might have a different viewpoint than me. I've explained my position and the basis for the term 'Darwinist creationism' and will continue to use it in discussions. If you don't accept or like it, I suggest you refrain from discussing the concept with me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's a difference between disagreement and mockery, ridicule and personal attacks on the individual, all which are typical of those who oppose those who embrace a theistic view of creation. The behavior of those who oppose those who embrace theistic creation has anger a common part of their behavior on the forum. Each person decides how to react to opposition, to disagreement.

But no one has done those things to you. We have expressed disgust at your behavior but we have not stooped to calling you names, saying anything bad about your personal life or your family or any other attacks that could be called "personal". We have focused on the your bad behavior and that is all.

I'm made of the stuff which disagrees respectfully and doesn't use ridicule, malice or personal attacks in my behavior toward those who might have a different viewpoint than me. I've explained my position and the basis for the term 'Darwinist creationism' and will continue to use it in discussions. If you don't accept or like it, I suggest you refrain from discussing the concept with me.

No, that is not true. If you disagreed respectfully you would use the proper terminology. You do not get to make up your own terms in a debate. That is not respectful and it is an attempt at ridicule.