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A question I don't think creationists will answer.

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No, the burden of proof is on those who claim that the creationist view that all of life is the result of only, totally, solely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form from long long ago.

No evidence at all has been provided for such a creationist viewpoint.


Tsk tsk, lying by using improper terminology.

And so openly too. That attitude undermines your position. And since you do not know what qualifies as evidence you are in no position to demand any.

Sadly that is curable by you rather quickly.
 
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No, the burden of proof is on those who claim that the creationist view that all of life is the result of only, totally, solely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form from long long ago.

No evidence at all has been provided for such a creationist viewpoint.

For the billionth time, nobody claims this.

We (= the outside world, as Bill Nye put it. the people who actually study the world instead of reading a book) just go by the evidence.

The only evidence we have suggests natural processes. There is no evidence suggesting something else. So why include it?
 
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It's my subjective opinion, as it's the subjective opinion of Darwinist creationists that all of life was created only by naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

Please provide a source that defines Darwinist creationism or creationist.
 
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For the billionth time, nobody claims this.

Yes they do...from Wikipedia...

Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.​

We (= the outside world, as Bill Nye put it. the people who actually study the world instead of reading a book) just go by the evidence.

The only evidence we have suggests natural processes. There is no evidence suggesting something else. So why include it?

There is no evidence suggesting that all of life is the result of only, totally, solely, completely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form from long long ago.
 
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Creationism is the belief that the Universe and living organisms originate "from specific acts of divine creation."[2][3] For young Earth creationists, this includes a literalistic reading of the Book of Genesis and the rejection of evolution

cre·a·tion
krēˈāSHən/Submit
noun
1.
the action or process of bringing something into existence.
"the creation of a coalition government"
synonyms: establishment, formation, foundation, initiation, institution, inauguration, constitution;
 
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Yes they do...from Wikipedia...
Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.


There is no evidence suggesting that all of life is the result of only, totally, solely, completely naturalistic processes acting on a single life form from long long ago.

Please provide a source for the definition of Darwinist creationism.
 
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cre·a·tion
krēˈāSHən/Submit
noun
1.
the action or process of bringing something into existence.
"the creation of a coalition government"
synonyms: establishment, formation, foundation, initiation, institution, inauguration, constitution;

Originally Posted by justlookinla
I call evolution evolution and I call creationism creationism.
Creationism is the belief that the Universe and living organisms originate "from specific acts of divine creation."[2][3] For young Earth creationists, this includes a literalistic reading of the Book of Genesis and the rejection of evolution
 
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Please provide a source for the definition of Darwinist creationism.

Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.​
 
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cre·a·tion
krēˈāSHən/Submit
noun
1.
the action or process of bringing something into existence.
"the creation of a coalition government"
synonyms: establishment, formation, foundation, initiation, institution, inauguration, constitution;


He was taking about "creationism" not "creation". There are several definitions of "creation" so it is not the best of terms to use. The definition of "creationism" is much less broad.

So try again.
 
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Originally Posted by justlookinla
I call evolution evolution and I call creationism creationism.
Creationism is the belief that the Universe and living organisms originate "from specific acts of divine creation."[2][3] For young Earth creationists, this includes a literalistic reading of the Book of Genesis and the rejection of evolution

cre·a·tion
krēˈāSHən/Submit
noun
1.
the action or process of bringing something into existence.
"the creation of a coalition government"
synonyms: establishment, formation, foundation, initiation, institution, inauguration, constitution;
 
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cre·a·tion
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noun
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the action or process of bringing something into existence.
"the creation of a coalition government"
synonyms: establishment, formation, foundation, initiation, institution, inauguration, constitution;

He was taking about "creationism" not "creation". There are several definitions of "creation" so it is not the best of terms to use. The definition of "creationism" is much less broad.

So try again.
 
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He was taking about "creationism" not "creation". There are several definitions of "creation" so it is not the best of terms to use. The definition of "creationism" is much less broad.

So try again.

Something or someone created humanity. That's creationism.
 
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Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by Charles Darwin and others, stating that all species of organisms arise and develop through the natural selection of small, inherited variations that increase the individual's ability to compete, survive, and reproduce.

I don't see the word "creationism".

Please provide a source for the definition of Darwinist creationism.
 
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