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A question I don't think creationists will answer.

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Then that was a foolish assumption on your part. I have not evaded in the least. From the start I told you what you had to do to see my evidence. So far the failure has all been on your side.

And my claim is only "apparently false" to an uneducated person. It is foolish to argue from ignorance.

"Mountains of evidence". Where is it?
 
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Ok.



How about non-Christians? Are they supposed to be honest also?



"Mountains of evidence". Where is it?

Yes, non-Christians should be honest too.

And you know you have not finished what you agreed to yet. You still have not learned what evidence is.

Why did you quit participating in your learning experience?
 
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"Mountains of evidence". Where is it?

First you must finish your lesson.

If you don't show you have learned there is no way that we can proceed.

Or perhaps you answered on another thread.

When the lesson is done then we can proceed on to the evidence. You need to practice patience.
 
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Yes, non-Christians should be honest too.

And you know you have not finished what you agreed to yet. You still have not learned what evidence is.

Why did you quit participating in your learning experience?

The only learning experience I've gotten from your posts is how ugly it is when one makes a baseless claim that they have "mountains of evidence" then acts as if their inability to provide this alleged evidence is somehow acceptable.
 
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First you must finish your lesson.

If you don't show you have learned there is no way that we can proceed.

Or perhaps you answered on another thread.

When the lesson is done then we can proceed on to the evidence. You need to practice patience.

You need to follow though with your claim that you have "mountains of evidence" that the creation of all life we observe today totally, completely and solely naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

I await.
 
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The only learning experience I've gotten from your posts is how ugly it is when one makes a baseless claim that they have "mountains of evidence" then acts as if their inability to provide this alleged evidence is somehow acceptable.

I can provide it. I will provide it once you finish what you agreed to do.

When you are ready to proceed I am more than ready. I can find the post where you agreed to first learn what is and what is not evidence.

Of course since you have not participated so far we will once more have to start over from scratch.

It looks like you have no interest in learning.

You can't complain about evolution if your keep yourself ignorant about the most basic concepts in science.
 
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You need to follow though with your claim that you have "mountains of evidence" that the creation of all life we observe today totally, completely and solely naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

I await.

Once again, you agreed to learn what is evidence. I await your participating in a very simple lesson.

What is really disgusting here is that if you had not broken your word you would have learned what is evidence by now and you would have had your evidence.

I am not going to "cast pearls before swine".

The ball is in your court.

And if necessary I can link your agreement again.

It is so nice that sites have limits on peoples abilities to edit posts. It tends to keep people honest.
 
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I can provide it. I will provide it once you finish what you agreed to do.

No, you aren't going to provide it, you're only going to attempt to take the focus from your failure by making still baseless claims concerning me.

When you are ready to proceed I am more than ready. I can find the post where you agreed to first learn what is and what is not evidence.

I've been more than ready to see this "mountain of evidence" you claim you have. So far, your posts have been as this one, more evasion, more baseless claims.

Of course since you have not participated so far we will once more have to start over from scratch.

It looks like you have no interest in learning.

You can't complain about evolution if your keep yourself ignorant about the most basic concepts in science.

If you can't back up your claims then your claims have little value. Actually, they have no value.
 
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Once again, you agreed to learn what is evidence. I await your participating in a very simple lesson.

What is really disgusting here is that if you had not broken your word you would have learned what is evidence by now and you would have had your evidence.

I am not going to "cast pearls before swine".

The ball is in your court.

And if necessary I can link your agreement again.

It is so nice that sites have limits on peoples abilities to edit posts. It tends to keep people honest.

No, the ball has been in your court since you make the claim that you have "mountains of evidence".

As usual, you respond with no "mountain of evidence" for the Darwinist creation position. You're not, it's obvious by now.
 
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No, you aren't going to provide it, you're only going to attempt to take the focus from your failure by making still baseless claims concerning me.

Really? Then why do you refuse to finish what you promised to do? All you have to do is to learn what qualifies as evidence and why and we can go on.



I've been more than ready to see this "mountain of evidence" you claim you have. So far, your posts have been as this one, more evasion, more baseless claims.

No you aren't ready. Once again you agreed to learn what evidence is and then you ran away. Stop running and we can go on.



If you can't back up your claims then your claims have little value. Actually, they have no value.


Of course I can back up my claims. Here is a suggestion. If you really want to challenge me finish what you said that you would do.

Right from the get go I told you that I would not give you evidence until you learned what is and what is not evidence. You have run away from your promise for over 24 hours now. I am patient. I can link the post where you agreed to my conditions time after time look!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7271368-17/
 
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No, the ball has been in your court since you make the claim that you have "mountains of evidence".

As usual, you respond with no "mountain of evidence" for the Darwinist creation position. You're not, it's obvious by now.

And I immediately told you what it would take to see that evidence.

I have quoted and linked your quote to support my claim. Let's see you support your claim. Did I ever say that I would give the evidence to you for free? I have not check back, but I am fairly sure from the very start I told you that you had to learn what evidence is first.

Again, you could have gone through a fairly simple exercise twice by now.
 
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Oh look! My first post with justinla and I told him what he had to do to see the evidence there:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7271368-16/#post65821040

So from the start I told justinla that he had to learn what evidence is. For me to give him any evidence would make a liar out of me.
 
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Really? Then why do you refuse to finish what you promised to do? All you have to do is to learn what qualifies as evidence and why and we can go on.

All you have to do is post this "mountain of evidence" you claim you have and we can go on.

No you aren't ready. Once again you agreed to learn what evidence is and then you ran away. Stop running and we can go on.

I'm here...waiting. Day after day. You on the other hand fail to post this "mountain of evidence" you claim you have. Day after day.

Of course I can back up my claims. Here is a suggestion. If you really want to challenge me finish what you said that you would do.

Back them up. Do it. Post your "mountain of evidence".

Right from the get go I told you that I would not give you evidence until you learned what is and what is not evidence. You have run away from your promise for over 24 hours now. I am patient. I can link the post where you agreed to my conditions time after time look!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7271368-17/

Lets look at the actual exchange again.....

I will prove it, but on my own terms.

It is obvious that you have no idea what "evidence" is. Don't worry, that is a flaw that many people, even scientists have had.

So once you agree to try to learn what counts as evidence we can continue. Until then I will simply point out that you have no idea what counts as evidence.


You've failed in your attempt to take the focus from your failure to provide "mountains of evidence" you claim you have.
 
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All you have to do is post this "mountain of evidence" you claim you have and we can go on.



I'm here...waiting. Day after day. You on the other hand fail to post this "mountain of evidence" you claim you have. Day after day.



Back them up. Do it. Post your "mountain of evidence".



Lets look at the actual exchange again.....





You've failed in your attempt to take the focus from your failure to provide "mountains of evidence" you claim you have.

Nope, you failed to follow through with your agreement. In my very first post to you I told you that you had to learn what evidence is.

You agreed to learn. Then you ran away from the lesson.

I would quote your agreement but you just linked it.

When you finish what you agreed to do you will get your evidence.
 
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Nope, you failed to follow through with your agreement. In my very first post to you I told you that you had to learn what evidence is.

In my very first post I asked you for this 'mountains of evidence' you allegedly have. From the view first post you've evaded and failed to give the slightest bit of evidence which I repeatedly asked for.

You agreed to learn. Then you ran away from the lesson.

What lesson? The lesson that you're not going to give the 'mountains of evidence' you claim you have. I learned that lesson many posts ago.

I would quote your agreement but you just linked it.

When you finish what you agreed to do you will get your evidence.

Quote it. Please. If you notice, I did quote what you posted and my response to your post. There's nothing there other than your failed attempt to place your failure to proved the 'mountains of evidence' you apparently do not have on someone else.

It's not going to work.
 
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In my very first post I asked you for this 'mountains of evidence' you allegedly have. From the view first post you've evaded and failed to give the slightest bit of evidence which I repeatedly asked for.

Yes, I knew that you would. That is why in the post that you responded to I told you that you had to learn what evidence was before I would show that evidence to you.

Why are you so afraid to learn what evidence is?





What lesson? The lesson that you're not going to give the 'mountains of evidence' you claim you have. I learned that lesson many posts ago.

The lesson that you agreed to learn. The lesson that you agreed to learn to see my mountains of evidence.

Quote it. Please. If you notice, I did quote what you posted and my response to your post. There's nothing there other than your failed attempt to place your failure to proved the 'mountains of evidence' you apparently do not have on someone else.

No, you have not fully quoted my original post to you.

I have not failed. The only failure has been yours. In my first post to you I told you what you had to do.



It's not going to work.

Well at last you have admitted that you will not follow through with your agreement. Why didn't you say that you would not be honest when I first asked you?
 
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No, the ball has been in your court since you make the claim that you have "mountains of evidence".

As usual, you respond with no "mountain of evidence" for the Darwinist creation position. You're not, it's obvious by now.

And you conveniently forget that I had a qualifier in that post. A qualifier that you later agreed to.

That means the ball is still firmly in your court.

I can link both posts again if need be. I can quote both posts if need be:

There are literally mountains of scientific evidence that supports the theory of evolution.

There is no scientific evidence that I am aware of that supports creationism.

Your problem is that you probably do not know what qualifies as evidence. I would be more than happy to help you to understand this fairly simple idea.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7271368-16/#post65821040

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"I will prove it, but on my own terms.

It is obvious that you have no idea what "evidence" is. Don't worry, that is a flaw that many people, even scientists have had.

So once you agree to try to learn what counts as evidence we can continue. Until then I will simply point out that you have no idea what counts as evidence.
'
Ok.

Go!
http://www.christianforums.com/t7271368-17/
 
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Yes, I knew that you would. That is why in the post that you responded to I told you that you had to learn what evidence was before I would show that evidence to you.

Why are you so afraid to learn what evidence is?

Why are you such a failure at posting your evidence?

The lesson that you agreed to learn. The lesson that you agreed to learn to see my mountains of evidence.

You have no 'mountains of evidence'. I asked for evidence, you failed to give it, now you're attempting to introduce an excuse into your failure.

Not going to work.

No, you have not fully quoted my original post to you.

I have not failed. The only failure has been yours. In my first post to you I told you what you had to do.

In the first post, I asked plainly for your 'mountain of evidence'. Since then, I've asked numerous times. So far, you've failed.

Well at last you have admitted that you will not follow through with your agreement. Why didn't you say that you would not be honest when I first asked you?

You concoct stories in order to convince yourself that your failure isn't' your fault, it's someone else's fault. The truth of the matter is simple, you made a claim, your claim was challenged, then you began your evasion quest. Your failure is your fault.

Where's the 'mountains of evidence'?
 
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Why are you such a failure at posting your evidence?



You have no 'mountains of evidence'. I asked for evidence, you failed to give it, now you're attempting to introduce an excuse into your failure.

Not going to work.



In the first post, I asked plainly for your 'mountain of evidence'. Since then, I've asked numerous times. So far, you've failed.



You concoct stories in order to convince yourself that your failure isn't' your fault, it's someone else's fault. The truth of the matter is simple, you made a claim, your claim was challenged, then you began your evasion quest. Your failure is your fault.

Where's the 'mountains of evidence'?


You broke your word, plain and simple.

I have posted the link where you agreed to learn what evidence is.

Why are you so afraid to learn what evidence is?

Is that idea that frightening to you?
 
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Subduction Zone:

"I will prove it, but on my own terms.

It is obvious that you have no idea what "evidence" is. Don't worry, that is a flaw that many people, even scientists have had.

So once you agree to try to learn what counts as evidence we can continue. Until then I will simply point out that you have no idea what counts as evidence.

justlookinla: Ok.

Go!


My response was for you to "point out that you have no idea what counts as evidence". I don't care that you think that I have no idea what counts as evidence. Post your evidence, let me decide if it's valid or not. It's not for you to tell me it's valid, it's not for you to claim that it's valid and I blindly accept it, post it.

Stop evading. Stop attempting to place the blame on others for your failure.

Post your 'mountains of evidence'.
 
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