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Okay, that works.A simple way to put it is “distinct” means “different”, separate is “not together” or “apart.” In other words, the roles of the three persons are different but the three persons are never alone, they are always together.
If your definition of separate means that they are never alone, that each person of the Trinity is fully the one true God then I have no problem with you using the word “separate.”Okay, that works.
But always together does not mean they are not separate persons.
God is the God of many names, in biblical times names told us something about the person so God has many names because He has many attributes. I rest my hat on the voice of God Himself, when asked what His name is He replied "I AM" Jesus also made that statement to confirm that He is God.So 5700 verses from OT must be enough for you to believe his name is "Yahweh"
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but let me offer another perspective. Maybe God has no name. He always seems to be called by a title or description. Even your example here is more of a description. Furthermore, God didn’t actually say his name was “I am.” He was responding to Moses’ question, “Who shall I say sent me?” He didn’t ask, what is your name. Even in the NT, Jesus and Emanuel could be considered titles or descriptions.God is the God of many names, in biblical times names told us something about the person so God has many names because He has many attributes. I rest my hat on the voice of God Himself, when asked what His name is He replied "I AM" Jesus also made that statement to confirm that He is God.
According to Matthew 28:19 it is one name into which the believers are immersed, plunged into, baptized into - one name.What is the name of the "Father," "Son" and "Holy Ghost"?
I have seen this piece of thoughtful graphic art. But I don't think it is adaquate.More descriptions on each person of the Trinity. But "father" is also a name and title, is it not? I would call my earthly father "Dad", "Father", etc. or I could call him by his actual name.
I think this website does an OK job explaining that.
No, that mixes the different persons of the Trinity. They are all unified in one God, the Godhead, but they are not the same person.
I have seen this piece of thoughtful graphic art. But I don't think it is adaquate.
Maybe no graphic can capture the revelation fully of the three-one God.
This is strange. Read carefully, this is what God says:God is the God of many names, in biblical times names told us something about the person so God has many names because He has many attributes. I rest my hat on the voice of God Himself, when asked what His name is He replied "I AM" Jesus also made that statement to confirm that He is God.
When Jesus (by the way, "Jesus" means "YAHWEH saves" not "I AM saves") taught his disciples how to pray, first thing he instructed them to ask from heavenly Father was “Our Father who is in heaven, may your name be treated as holy." I see nothing here about some many names you've mentioned. Its obvious, Jesus was talking about particular name well known to him, his heavenly Father and his disciples. But... see to yourselfGod is the God of many names
Could you please show in the Bible some other divine person except Yahweh God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son of God and the Holy Spirit.And yet the NT word of God presents the three divine agents of the Trinity with personal pronouns, personal titles, personal functions and acting as personal agents. . .thereby presenting the three divine agents in the one God as persons.
There are no other divine beings.Could you please show in the Bible some other divine person except Yahweh God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son of God and the Holy Spirit.
Like, somebody else divine, speaking, acting, sitting on the throne, so on.
What? Have you ever tried to read preface to your Bible translation? In most cases they always mention there, in smallest type, they substituted the Name with the "Lord". Just try to dig a bit you'll face the real different perspective...He always seems to be called by a title or description
In case I wasn't clear enough. You said, the Three are agents of some one God. So I asked to kindly point out somebody else divine, acting, speaking, sitting on the throne, judging, forgiving, raising up and so on except the mentioned Three. You are so confident touching that matter, I'm sure you got some direct references.Divinity and spirit are God's nature only.
Angelic and spirit are angels' nature only.
Human and material are human's nature only.
Animal and material are animal'a nature only.
Plant and material are plants' nature only.
Mineral and material are rocks' nature only.
When Jesus (by the way, "Jesus" means "YAHWEH saves" not "I AM saves") taught his disciples how to pray, first thing he instructed them to ask from heavenly Father was “Our Father who is in heaven, may your name be treated as holy." I see nothing here about some many names you've mentioned. Its obvious, Jesus was talking about particular name well known to him, his heavenly Father and his disciples. But... see to yourself
Matthew 6:9-13
9 Therefore you pray in this way:
“Our Father who is in heaven,
may your name be treated as holy.
10 May your kingdom come,
may your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread,
12 and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And do not bring us into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.
Look, Jesus' guideline is at the last place for you, one among the many in the Bible, but it is supposed to be at the first. Please try to reorder, much more grace on the way. I'm not saying that is the only player possible but... definitely better to reorder and pay attention to his words.It is possible to take "how to pray" too legally.
Stephen called on the Lord Jesus and prayed to Him.
"And they stoned Stephen as he called upon the Lord and said, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!
And kneeling down, he cried out with a loud voice, Lord, do not hold this sin against them. And when he had said this, he fell asleep." (Acts 7:59,60)
Don't you think that that was an entirely acceptable and exemplary prayer to God? I do.
Paul besought the Lord Jesus three times, peitioning for the removal of a troublesome thorn.
"Concerning this I entreated the Lord three times that it might depart from me.
And He has said to me, My grace is sufficent for you. For My power is perfected in weakness." (2 Cor. 12:8,9a)
This was a perfectly effective prayer to the Lord Jesus and receiving reply from Him.
Matthew 6:9-13 is a guideline. It is one of many in the Bible.
And the more I confess Jesus as the I AM the more grace flows into me and the more I feel the Father is delighted.
It is not at "the last place" for me.Look, Jesus' guideline is at the last place for you, one among the many in the Bible, but it is supposed to be at the first. Please try to reorder, much more grace on the way
There are three (agents) persons (as the NT reveals) in the one divinity, God.In case I wasn't clear enough. You said, the Three are agents of some one God. So I asked to kindly point out somebody else divine, acting, speaking, sitting on the throne, judging, forgiving, raising up and so on except the mentioned Three. You are so confident touching that matter, I'm sure you got some direct references.
And Jesus is one of a number of teachers and instructors? One of the Bible characters?It is not at "the last place" for me.
It is one of a number of encouraging and instructing passages.
We need all the help we can get.
Agents are persons acting in a particular capacity, in this case the divine capacity.So the agents (Father forgive me it is just a figure of speech) of whom are the Three?
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