• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

A question for the ladies

Lory Valencia

Active Member
Oct 29, 2018
38
17
Brea
✟24,431.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Engaged
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?
 

Hazelelponi

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Jun 25, 2018
11,978
11,364
USA
✟1,091,899.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Constitution
Ignore it. They never grow up.. lol.

You want a man who is responsible, who has goals and a career. Who doesn't call off work because he doesn't "feel" like working that day...that is responsibility and that is what you look for in a man.

You'll never find a man who is 'mature', don't bother. Accept your fiance for exactly who he is or don't keep him at all.
 
Upvote 0

Maria Billingsley

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 7, 2018
11,858
9,915
65
Martinez
✟1,228,860.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?
Find the maturity in them and nurture it.
 
  • Optimistic
Reactions: Tanj
Upvote 0

Occams Barber

Newbie
Site Supporter
Aug 8, 2012
6,493
7,693
77
Northern NSW
✟1,103,558.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Divorced
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?

Easy - stick with older men.

Wisdom, expertise, maturity, experience, knowledge, assets, good looks and … modesty.

We've got it all :)
OB
 
Upvote 0

JackRT

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 17, 2015
15,722
16,445
82
small town Ontario, Canada
✟767,475.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
Easy - stick with older men.

Wisdom, expertise, maturity, experience, knowledge, assets, good looks and … modesty.

We've got it all :)
OB

We sure do but can we cut the mustard? ;)
 
Upvote 0

Occams Barber

Newbie
Site Supporter
Aug 8, 2012
6,493
7,693
77
Northern NSW
✟1,103,558.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Divorced
We sure do but can we cut the mustard? ;)

Gimme 20 minutes to get my teeth in, unhitch the truss and untie my shoelaces, and I can Mustard Cut with the best of 'em. :cool:

OB
 
Upvote 0

Lory Valencia

Active Member
Oct 29, 2018
38
17
Brea
✟24,431.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Engaged
Easy - stick with older men.

Wisdom, expertise, maturity, experience, knowledge, assets, good looks and … modesty.

We've got it all :)
OB
Oh I have an older man! 4 years older and I am still more mature. haha :)
 
Upvote 0

Lory Valencia

Active Member
Oct 29, 2018
38
17
Brea
✟24,431.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Engaged
Ignore it. They never grow up.. lol.

You want a man who is responsible, who has goals and a career. Who doesn't call off work because he doesn't "feel" like working that day...that is responsibility and that is what you look for in a man.

You'll never find a man who is 'mature', don't bother. Accept your fiance for exactly who he is or don't keep him at all.
love it. thank you. xx
 
  • Friendly
Reactions: Hazelelponi
Upvote 0

quatona

"God"? What do you mean??
May 15, 2005
37,512
4,302
✟190,302.00
Faith
Seeker
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?
I´m not sure I agree with the premise. If you feel like it and find the time, maybe you can give a summary of what it means for you to be mature - so we know better what we are talking about?
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Doctor.Sphinx
Upvote 0

Haydee

Active Member
Sep 29, 2018
68
73
QLD
✟29,801.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Private
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?

Nobody's perfect.

Romans 3:23 New International Version (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
 
Upvote 0

DogmaHunter

Code Monkey
Jan 26, 2014
16,757
8,532
Antwerp
✟158,405.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?

Boys will be boys. You can either accept that or become a lesbien. :)


Spoken as a true boy who will never part with his Xbox, drumset, manga series collection...
Those are my toys and they are important to me. If you (=my hypothetical fiancee, wife, whatevs) truelly love me, you'ld have respect for those things that are important to me.

Stop trying to change me. It will not work. At best, what you will accomplish will only result in my lying to you about having to stay late at work, while really I'm over at my bro's, playing on their xbox. :D

Things that girls do can drive men insane as well.
And the same goes for them. Your wife loves shopping for shoes. Shoes are important to her. If you love her, you'll respect her love for shoes. No matter how crazy you think it is to have 45 pairs of shoes.


(all this, assuming that these things don't take on extremes like full blown addictions and stuff off course)



So, this was fun.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Hazelelponi
Upvote 0

Paidiske

Clara bonam audax
Site Supporter
Apr 25, 2016
36,072
20,334
45
Albury, Australia
Visit site
✟1,772,810.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Anglican
Marital Status
Married
I think it depends on what you mean by immaturity.

But what I've observed is that women tend to adjust to the new realities of parenting much faster than men do (with good reason, it's much more enfleshed for us!) And there can be a lot of frustration when men seem to go on as if their lives haven't been changed by the arrival of a new, totally dependent little person, especially when the woman feels like her life has been totally shattered.

To be honest, I'm not sure there are perfect answers to that, except to insist on equal input from dad from day one; and not to accept responsibility for everything by default.
 
Upvote 0

DogmaHunter

Code Monkey
Jan 26, 2014
16,757
8,532
Antwerp
✟158,405.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
I think it depends on what you mean by immaturity.

But what I've observed is that women tend to adjust to the new realities of parenting much faster than men do (with good reason, it's much more enfleshed for us!) And there can be a lot of frustration when men seem to go on as if their lives haven't been changed by the arrival of a new, totally dependent little person, especially when the woman feels like her life has been totally shattered.

To be honest, I'm not sure there are perfect answers to that, except to insist on equal input from dad from day one; and not to accept responsibility for everything by default.

I can relate to that.
I have a 3-year old son. And me and my other half don't see eye to eye on how it impacted our life. Sure, there is that little dude that is dependent on for which you need to provide and stuff. But the impact I experience is a lot less then the impact she experiences.

And I think it's totally subjective. As I always say: if that is how you feel... perhaps that is just how you feel. Not necessarily how it is.

Sure, I do my part. Sure, there are some things that have become more dificult. Priorities that changed left and right. But all in all, I really don't feel like me "pre-dad" life is over. I experience it more like an addition to my life - not so much as a change.

To be honest, moving in together with my woman had LOADS more impact on my life then having a kid. And I do mean LOADS. But it goes for me as well: maybe that's just how I feel and not how it is.
 
Upvote 0

Doctor.Sphinx

Well-Known Member
Dec 10, 2017
2,317
2,844
De Nile
✟28,262.00
Country
Egypt
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Constitution
With all due respect, Ms. Valencia, maturity is relative, not based on gender.
She wasn't clear what she meant by maturity. However, females do generally mature sexually faster than males do, although females also become infertile much sooner. The simple solution to this I see is that older men should marry younger women. Although, there is far more to marriage than "maturity".
 
Upvote 0

Dave-W

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2014
30,522
16,853
Maryland - just north of D.C.
Visit site
✟772,070.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Upvote 0

DogmaHunter

Code Monkey
Jan 26, 2014
16,757
8,532
Antwerp
✟158,405.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
With all due respect, Ms. Valencia, maturity is relative, not based on gender.
It's a matter of stereotype / average psycholigical differences between males and females in general, which is put under the umbrella as "maturity", for better or worse.

In this case the concept of "boys and toys", is equivocated with "maturity levels".

A grown woman will likely not look at barbies anymore and think "ow, cool!".
While a grown man will likely not only look at a remote controlled car and think "ow, cool!"... no... he likely will actually want to play with it as well. :)

The OP is probably about more then just boys and their toys, but it's an easy example to illustrate my point.

There's a part of men that never really grows old. There's that permanent boy that stays present, that just wants to play videogames and stuff. That wants to compete with peers one way or the other. Be it in a card game, a video game, "who has the loudest or fastest motorcycle", who can drink most, etc.

This is typical male stuff.
I wouldn't want to change it either. In fact, I wish women would be more like that. There's something liberating about being a 40-year old man and be unapologetic about how much fun you can have in GTA5 or Red Dead Redemption 2. Or how much fun you have playing Lego with your 10-year old son or nephew or whatever.

In fact....... I'ld even question the whole idea that you must "grow up" and be "mature". Sure, as you grow older, you gain new and more responsabilities. You need to pay your taxes, your bills, you need to to what is required at your job, you need to provide for your kids, etc.

But assuming those are taken care off well enough, why shouldn't you find that inner 12-year old and just have fun?

When I was a kid, they used to tell me "care for these moments, it's the best time of your life".
And indeed, looking back, it was the best time of my life. All fun and almost no responsabilities.
Now I have many responsabilities. But why should that stop me of having fun?

If what I need to do is done, there is no reason why I couldn't crawl back into my 12-year old self and have fun like santa clause getting high at disney land.

Fun (and love), is what makes life worth living.



(I'm feeling inspired, because I just had this argument over the weekend with my other half who doesn't get how I could play the new and awesome Red Dead Redemption for hours, saying "you're a grown man, what are you doing playing video games??" :D )
 
Upvote 0

zephcom

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2017
2,395
1,650
78
Pacific Northwest
✟102,947.00
Country
United States
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
Married
Ladies,

with all do respect, men naturally mature later than us women, but how do we deal with it when our boyfriends, fiancés, or husbands act immature? What are some wise words to take in when dealing with our mens immaturities and how it can often times frustrate us? And can we help them?
This is an interesting topic. My first bit of advise is if a woman is in a pre-marriage position and there is anything about her man which she finds problematic, bow out of the relationship. We can not be changed post-marriage. Men are on their best behavior during dating, we regress after marriage.

With that said, I think it is important for members of both sexes to understand the general thinking and behavioral differences between men and women. The best book I've read on this topic is "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus". When I read it I thought, "They could just replace 'men' with my name and it would be the same".

Some of our natural behavioral issues which women may find 'immature' may well be baked into our male genes. For instance, men make decisions differently than women do. Understanding that can prevent women from becoming frustrated and even angry at the man in their lives.

In many ways, our 'advanced' society is socially backwards in its understanding of male and female roles. Seeking out and learning about the other sex in more than just a superficial manner can lead to a much more satisfying relationship with them.
 
Upvote 0