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A question for Old Earth Creationists

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Not a problem for me. I have no problem explaining the fossil record. It's the creationists who can't seem to do it without just making stuff up. I mean completely crazy stuff.
That's because there was no fossil record directly created.

And for the record, you're a creationist too -- you just don't know it.
 
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That's because there was no fossil record directly created.

I know that. It accumulated over a period of some 3.5 Ga.

And for the record, you're a creationist too -- you just don't know it.

Yes, but not a biblical creationist.
 
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I believe you have an exception to the OT taking a hike too, don't you?

The Protevangelium?

AV, if you want to start a thread in one of the Apologetic forums and invite me, do so; otherwise get back on topic.
 
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AV, if you want to start a thread in one of the Apologetic forums and invite me, do so; otherwise get back on topic.
:scratch: -- I thought you just told me to take a hike!?
 
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:scratch: -- I thought you just told me to take a hike!?

You know chief, threads have titles and a description about what is to be discussed. Jumping in and making off-the-wall comments completely unrelated to the topic is nothing short of trolling.

How about contributing to the thread. I would really appreciate it.
 
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AV, if you want to start a thread in one of the Apologetic forums and invite me, do so;
I would like to invite you to participate here, please: 1
 
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No, God even asked man not to sin. Sin is basically a separation from God...like death.



Man was not made a robot, that had to reject the rebellion of Satan and his council and lies. There was a plan of Salvation from the beginning. But we sure took the long way home.

No, the perversions and demonic surrender of Sodom and Gomorrah were not from God at all. The same spirit works today in places like the US.


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The harvest ripens quickly! Hallelujah. Soon the time for reaping will come. This is solid evidence of the lateness of the hour folks.
From the Constitution of the United States:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
From Exodus 20:3-7
3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Bravo Framers of the Constitution and Leaders of the states that ratified the Constitution for declaring your open enmity with God.
The harvest ripens quickly! Hallelujah. Soon the time for reaping will come. This is solid evidence of the lateness of the hour folks.

or...maybe not.
 
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From the Constitution of the United States:
Why bring up the constitution? You thought that gave antichrist terrorists the right to do what they wanted??




Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
From Exodus 20:3-7
3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.
This is supposed to make sense?? What do you think it means or applies to exactly?




4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Bravo Framers of the Constitution and Leaders of the states that ratified the Constitution for declaring your open enmity with God.
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Are you insinuating that leaders have some right to plunge into overt demonism and profligate advocacy of the very things God destroys societies for? Are you furthermore hinting that the constitution in the US condones such things??

When a people set up something above the words of God they make it a god.

The harvest ripens quickly! Hallelujah. Soon the time for reaping will come. This is solid evidence of the lateness of the hour folks. When wickedness is come to the full, God will end it.
 
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Why bring up the constitution? You thought that gave antichrist terrorists the right to do what they wanted??
I am unclear on your reasoning for bringing up terrorists. However, not interfering with any person's religion, is allowing that person to worship whatever god they choose.
This is supposed to make sense?? What do you think it means or applies to exactly?
God clearly states that no other god should be worshiped instead of Him. The first amendment to the Constitution was clearly set up to allow the worship of those other gods by the people of the United States. This is against the first and second commandments. Add to that the allowing of freedom of speech, which allows people to say God's name in vain without any repercussions from the government. That is a clear violation of the third commandment.
I think placing the right to violate 3 of God's covenant commands into the highest law of the land trumps the current leaders' support of the right to violate some minor biblical law.
Are you insinuating that leaders have some right to plunge into overt demonism and profligate advocacy of the very things God destroys societies for? Are you furthermore hinting that the constitution in the US condones such things??
I am openly stating that the founders of this nation did think they had that right, otherwise they wouldn't have made it law. Also the Constitution in the US does condone such things. Prove me wrong.
When a people set up something above the words of God they make it a god.
Then you believe the laws of the United States of America should fall in line with the biblical laws? Strangely, I have not seen any protests of the first amendment by Christian groups.
The harvest ripens quickly! Hallelujah. Soon the time for reaping will come. This is solid evidence of the lateness of the hour folks. When wickedness is come to the full, God will end it.
Wickedness came to the full 225 years ago when the ability to blaspheme God openly without criminal punishment was ratified by the states.
 
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I am unclear on your reasoning for bringing up terrorists. However, not interfering with any person's religion, is allowing that person to worship whatever god they choose.
God clearly states that no other god should be worshiped instead of Him. The first amendment to the Constitution was clearly set up to allow the worship of those other gods by the people of the United States. This is against the first and second commandments. Add to that the allowing of freedom of speech, which allows people to say God's name in vain without any repercussions from the government. That is a clear violation of the third commandment.

Now one can interpret the constitution apparently, and many do so. If one looks at the times when it was written for example and the religion(s) they were mostly talking about, it was Christian churches and denominations, no? So of course they did not want, say, the Catholics running the show, so hence some might interpret, the proviso about religion. Some might feel that was not meant to promote totally unChristian religions as equal...or that having some respect for Christianity in general (prayer in schools, etc) was something they sought to ban!

I think placing the right to violate 3 of God's covenant commands into the highest law of the land trumps the current leaders' support of the right to violate some minor biblical law.
You interpret one way, others another way. The current thrust to kill babies and fight Christian freedoms and the biblical truths and warnings is anything but minor. What we are seeing is an antichrist regime.

I am openly stating that the founders of this nation did think they had that right, otherwise they wouldn't have made it law. Also the Constitution in the US does condone such things. Prove me wrong.
I don't much care if the constitution did condone the tooth fairy, the bible is what matters. That is the standard of God and Christians. I am not of the opinion that recent governments in the US have respected the constitution all that much, more than lip service anyhow. I have heard many opinions that they have done violence to the spirit of the text.

Then you believe the laws of the United States of America should fall in line with the biblical laws? Strangely, I have not seen any protests of the first amendment by Christian groups.
Forget the laws of the doomed. Who cares? The nation the forgets God will be turned to hell. Obviously. We can see that the state of the nations and the US in particular is ripe with wickedness of proportions not seen since Sodom, and even before the flood. As I said this is wonderful news indeed, because the harvest must be ripe before Jesus comes.
 
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