I'd like to ask all you christian evolutionists why you dont believe in evolution apart from God.
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A question for all Christian evolutionists
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Nathan Poe
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Not being a Christian, I'd like to take a whack at this one anyway:
They believe in evolution because the facts which support it, if written down, could fill the Grand Canyon.
They believe in God because, well, they're Christians.
Is there anything in this world that a Christian believes exists apart from God?
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LewisWildermuth
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That is my problem with this. In Christianity, there is nothing that exists without God, the good, the bad, the pretty and the ugly, all exist due to God. If evolution occurred, then it is by God's will.
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LewisWildermuth
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You cannot fully understand why until you know how, so until we know how, the answers to why are only speculation.
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I'm not sure quite what you are asking.
If you are asking why don't I believe that evolution occurs apart from God's direct involvement, then you are mistaken. I do believe evolution occurs apart from any direct involvement with God.
If you are asking why I still believe in God if I believe in evolution, well, same reason I believe in both gravity and and the existence of China. The two are not mutually exclusive and I have evidence for each.
If you are asking why don't I believe that evolution occurs apart from God's direct involvement, then you are mistaken. I do believe evolution occurs apart from any direct involvement with God.
If you are asking why I still believe in God if I believe in evolution, well, same reason I believe in both gravity and and the existence of China. The two are not mutually exclusive and I have evidence for each.
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LewisWildermuth
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What do you mean by "without God?" Do you mean "Can evolution occur without direct miraculous intervention?"
Then yes, but my computer also runs without direct miraculous intervention, children are conceived without direct miraculous intervention, a lot of God's universe runs without him having to fix it every five seconds.
Is that a problem for Christianity? No.
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So you believe that the first human and everything in this universe could have evolved without the existence of God??
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some believe that we are still in the sixth day, refered to as the day of man, and are still being created 
When the creating is over, God will rest on the seventh day since "it is finished" then. Interesting theory no doubt 
God does say that we are a harvest.
When the creating is over, God will rest on the seventh day since "it is finished" then. Interesting theory no doubt God does say that we are a harvest.
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Come on all you christian evolustionists, tell me if you believe humans and all creation could have evolved without any intervention from God and if not, why? I'm waiting.
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I think God is good enough of a designer that he doesn't have to dip his hand in constantly.
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LewisWildermuth
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Why do you feel that God is so inept as a creator that he has to suspend the laws of physics every five seconds to get what he wants?
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Did you misunderstand my question? I don't know how to make myself any clearer. I'm asking a simple question. Do you believe in the possibility of creation without any intervention from God. Yes or No and if "NO" explain why
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I thought I had been clear, but I will make it clearer.
Yes. I do believe God set up a system where we could have evolved without His direct intervention. I would actually have serious doubts about the omnipotence and omniscience of God if He were unable to set up a suitably elegant system to not require direct intervention. It's like making a watch you have to correct the time on every two weeks. It's just poor design to have to get involved constantly.
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