A Prophetess?

[msmorality]

Curious answer. In this case, she wrote a lot...but its not claimed to be scripture. Nevertheless, its talked about as of out were...

*[[Heb 1:1-2]] WEB* God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, has at the end of these days spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds.

Rev 5:5
And one of the elders said to me, "Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals."

Not having read all the pages here, and not knowing who this ' prophetess is or what she wrote '. I would be cautious. Many times prophets can also be false.

1 John 4:1

 

[cupid dave]

I think you're overselling to the point that there isn't any grounds for the things you are saying.

Try toning it back on the surrealism and drama and try saying something relevant.

You lost it at the moment of "christian sexual prudence implies also implies opposition to the women who will assert they have the independent right to use their own bodies anyway they, themselves, determine."

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That the women can be prophets is true.

They have the equalight to teach other women that "they have the independent right to use their own bodies anyway they, themselves, determine."

But the early churches and monasteries were equally a place were men could teach that sexual promiscuity destroys families, produces criminal minded fatherless boys, requires abortions, and brings down the whole society as Isaiah prophesied in Isa 3.

 

[Huram Abi]

Yes, they do have the right to use their own bodies as they, themselves determine.

However, it's absolute rubbish to conclude that women teach sexual promiscuity while men teach prudence.

 

[cupid dave]

Yes, they do have the right to use their own bodies as they, themselves determine.

However, it's absolute rubbish to conclude that women teach sexual promiscuity while men teach prudence.

1) Your opinion is subjective and ignores the Social Contract that a community makes with the members who will compose it.

2) But I agree that non-christian/non-muslim men are not prudent at all.

That is why the trade in sexual favors is so clearly the way a social whoredom arises once the Social Contract allows women the license to negotiate independently in the use they put their body to.

 

[Huram Abi]

I don't know what town you live in, but most of the women I know, regardless of religious affiliation are really only interested in creating a stable environment for their children.

Whatever sexual favors you are talking about, you need to move to another neighborhood, because most women are only interested in the strength and success of their family unit.

You truly don't understand women at all if you think that they collectively conspire using sex as a bargaining chip or that they are all harlots. Every relationship you might have is doomed if you actually feel this way.

 

[cupid dave]

I don't know what town you live in, but most of the women I know, regardless of religious affiliation are really only interested in creating a stable environment for their children.

Whatever sexual favors you are talking about, you need to move to another neighborhood, because most women are only interested in the strength and success of their family unit.

You truly don't understand women at all if you think that they collectively conspire using sex as a bargaining chip or that they are all harlots. Every relationship you might have is doomed if you actually feel this way.

You err to think that my comments are sourced in feelings.

I refer you to that scientific studies and the Statistical Facts which say that 1/3 of our pregnant women every year, today, have abortions.
One third, 1/3, of our pregnant women have illegitimate babies.

Only one third, 1/3, of American women today have births that are legitimate.

Does that mean anything to you, Objectively speaking?


Have you googled the Facts about Crime and Single Mothers?
Do you KNOW the cost of Welfare is half one Trillion Dollars today?
Do you know it costs $30,000 a year, each, to incarcerate the criminals and that 75% of these people come from Fatherless families?

Do you not see that what women want as a safe environment for their kids depends upon sexual prudence before the anti-social effects make that environment not good????

 

[Huram Abi]

Sexual prudence is not dependent on a 2 parent home. Plenty of single mothers engage in sexual prudence and are single not by choice.

And I am sorry, Cupid, but, I warned you so many times about crying wolf that I simply do not believe your claims, and since we well know that correlation does not imply causation, I don't think it is worth my time to check to see if you have correct information or not.

Single parenting isn't relevant to what you are saying about women being harlots.

 

[cupid dave]

Sexual prudence is not dependent on a 2 parent home. Plenty of single mothers engage in sexual prudence and are single not by choice.

And I am sorry, Cupid, but, I warned you so many times about crying wolf that I simply do not believe your claims, and since we well know that correlation does not imply causation, I don't think it is worth my time to check to see if you have correct information or not.

Single parenting isn't relevant to what you are saying about women being harlots.

I never said women are harlots because harlots are not the problem that destroys societies.

It is the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], meaning promiscuous woman, and the harlot that destroys society.
But even they know not what they do.

It is you and me and the adults that train the young people to use sex for fun and recreation and irresponsible outlets for the hormones that we know are difficult to handle when the society is nreligiously prudent and frons on promiscuity and advertisement by pornography everywhere.

Especially you because you ignore the Facts which are brought to your attention.

This is the harm nice non-whoring single mothers bring to the kids:

 

[Huram Abi]

So, what you are saying is that these teenagers make their OWN CHOICES after CORPORATIONS appeal to their NATURAL PROCLIVITIES in order to sell them WHAT THEY ALREADY WANT due to their ANIMAL TENDENCIES.

I am not to blame, here. And it certainly isn't single females trading sexual favors. That is a pure fantasy.

Yes, the problem has to do with influence and I concede that the more one on one time a child has with an adult to influence them positively, the less likely they will be inclined to behave poorly so, yes, 2 parents are better than 1. Or 1 parent and 1 grandparent, or several aunts or uncles.

But the solution isn't sexual prudence, because abstinence only is a failed policy. It simply doesn't work. It never has.

 

[cupid dave]

So, what you are saying is that these teenagers make their OWN CHOICES after CORPORATIONS appeal to their NATURAL PROCLIVITIES in order to sell them WHAT THEY ALREADY WANT due to their ANIMAL TENDENCIES.

I am not to blame, here. And it certainly isn't single females trading sexual favors. That is a pure fantasy.

Yes, the problem has to do with influence and I concede that the more one on one time a child has with an adult to influence them positively, the less likely they will be inclined to behave poorly so, yes, 2 parents are better than 1. Or 1 parent and 1 grandparent, or several aunts or uncles.

But the solution isn't sexual prudence, because abstinence only is a failed policy. It simply doesn't work. It never has.

I haven't discussed the solution because your consistent attempt to discredit the facts I presented have occuppied all our conversation so far.

The largest part of the problem is just that, denial and arguments against the facts, coupled with deroggatory remarks and accusations that I hate women for even criticizing the social problems that are so obvious.

It is a great step forward that u humble yourself to make a concession that half of our families are fatherless today and the hand writing is on the wall for the Nation's future.

 

[Huram Abi]

I've made no concession. I don't know how many families are fatherless and I've concluded it is irrelevant in the sea of other factors that create these social problems. It comes down to how much positive iinfluence versus how much negative influence one is exposed to.

Having a father around does not guarantee a positive effect for children. Furthermore, the positive effect a father may have can be substituted by grandparents, or other family members. The child simply needs one on one time with a positive role model which is hard for a single working mother to do. A father isn't necessary for this, but mostly children are left to learn about life from tv and each other, which is not a proper substitute for the lessons a father may teach.

But, again, in many families, the presence of a drunken or violent male is the root of many social problems.

You can't just decide that all of societies ills come down to a simple problem.