A Pondering of the Peculiar (4)

[GenemZ]

Coincidentally, most of our bodies are water. And bacterial cells, your body contains 9 bacterial cells for every 1 human cell.

Its interesting. Those bacterial cells hopefully reside only in your gut and are used for digestion, and also those bacterial cells have a major function for your immune system.

Just happened that way after a million years or so. Evolution.. that great mega genius... arranged for it all to happen in after crap shoot he won.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Its interesting. Those bacterial cells hopefully reside in your gut and are used for digestion, and also the bacterial cells consist as a great deal of the function your immune system. Just happened that way after a million years or so. Evolution.. that great mega genius... arranged for it all to happen in after crap shoot he won.

The bacteria are everywhere. Without them you would die. Plenty of animals readily develop symbiotic relationships.

 

[GenemZ]

I'll leave it, thanks. So in reality you don't believe in evolution. You can't decouple macro from micro evolution. You wish to ignore the evidence of the fossil record on the basis that it is only evidence of past creations.

Interesting... Which came first? The Bible? Or, Darwin? I find it painful to see you ignore the fact that the Bible pointed to prehistoric creations before science finally came to the same conclusion. But, choose to ignore that the Bible was way ahead of science concerning that matter. You're not posting to a Young Earth Creationist, but you seem locked in as if I were.

I'm curious, how many past creations? And where do you draw the lines?

That is why God gave us archeological scientists. So we can know.

 

[GenemZ]

The bacteria are everywhere. Without them you would die. Plenty of animals readily develop symbiotic relationships.

And, with them you could die. You have both good and bad bacteria in your intestines. They must be in the right balance, or life can not be sustained.

 

[PsychoSarah]

And, with them you could die. You have both good and bad bacteria in your intestines. They must be in the right balance, or life can not be sustained.

Well, they are bad if they get in the wrong place.

 

[dad]

Science confirmed something the Bible has been saying all along, but the ancient scholars could not figure out how it was. That there had been other creations to grace the surface the earth before this one was created to replace them.

Utter conjecture. You misinterpret the fossil record.

All the water that was covering the earth in Genesis 1:2 was just before we read about it, was a frozen ice pack.

God said water...He doesn't know the difference??? Give us a break!

For it says (in the Hebrew) that the Spirit of God was hovering over the earth as a chicken incubates her eggs as to warm them.

True...and so..?? What He is the ice man?

Much of that water got sucked underground as it cleared off the debris of the prior creation.

Speaking about sucked in...not me thanks!

That is why so many times when oil is found below the surface it has a surface a layer of water on top. How did the water get down there with all the organic matter?

Fable. Of all the reasons water mixed with oil that is about the most ridiculous one I heard yet.

The word “moved” is rachaph and literally means “to incubate.” Birds are said “to brood” over their eggs: when warmth from the mother’s body incubates the eg, out pops a baby whatever it is - sparrow, swan or buzzard! In Deuteronomy 32:11, rachaph is the verb used for a bird brooding over her young to warm them and to give them vitality. What this word really implies is this:

Rubbish. It can also mean hover. Your implications are well chosen to prop up your pet compromise philosophy apparently.

remember, darkness covered the earth - no light, no heat!

No I don't remember that at all. If There was water there was heat. It was not the iceman that cometh there.

God the Holy Spirit didn’t “move,” but He “provided heat.”

False. He moved.

The best translation is: “He incubated the ice pack.”

Not for the sound of mind. That is a ridiculous and desperate mental gymnastic.

The Spirit of God radiated heat, producing melted water.” When the Spirit applied heat, the ice pack melted.

So now the ice age was before man existed? Funny that on day three the plants were here. What they liked the frozen tundra? Give it up!
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[biggles53]

Don't ya just love it...? The Bible is so inerrantly perfect, that all Christians are able to confidently speak with the same voice....!

What. A. Joke.

 

[lesliedellow]

Don't ya just love it...? The Bible is so inerrantly perfect, that all Christians are able to confidently speak with the same voice....!

What. A. Joke.

All Christians agree on something: "They believe exactly what their pastors tell them. Can't think for themselves."

Christians disagree on something: "What a joke. They interpret the Bible to mean whatever they want it to mean."

They can't really win, can they?

 

[Atheos canadensis]

Interesting... Which came first? The Bible? Or, Darwin? I find it painful to see you ignore the fact that the Bible pointed to prehistoric creations before science finally came to the same conclusion. But, choose to ignore that the Bible was way ahead of science concerning that matter. You're not posting to a Young Earth Creationist, but you seem locked in as if I were.


That is why God gave us archeological scientists. So we can know.

I'm not sure why you've brought up a young earth. I know you're an old-earther; you've made it clear several times. I'm not discussing the age of the earth with you, I'm discussion evolution.

Archaeologists are concerned with human artifacts. If we're talking about the fossil record we're talking about paleontologists. And point me to the paleontological sources that give evidence of multiple creations. Note that simply claiming the entire fossil record as evidence without explain why it is evidence is not sufficient.

Also, you seem to have forgotten to respond to most of my post, so I'll paste it here for your convenience.

I'll leave it, thanks. So in reality you don't believe in evolution. You can't decouple macro from micro evolution. You wish to ignore the evidence of the fossil record on the basis that it is only evidence of past creations. I'm curious, how many past creations? And where do you draw the lines? Why do the different creations present a pattern of relationships? That shouldn't happen, which would mean that hundreds of millions of years worth of fossils arranged themselves by chance into a pattern that looks exactly like evolution, transitional fossils and all. That's not very parsimonious.

The difference is that you really don't understand the fundamentals of evolution whereas I am completely familiar with Dad's argument. Let me guess; the entire video is some variation on "Everything used to be different in whatever way necessary to explain away the evidence. Scientists are fools and have no evidence that current physics existed in the past". You watched it; tell me how close I am. And of course even if I weren't already familiar with Dad's nonsense it wouldn't lessen your ignorance of evolution fundamentals.

 

[dad]

Don't ya just love it...? The Bible is so inerrantly perfect, that all Christians are able to confidently speak with the same voice....!

What. A. Joke.

A Christian as defined by this forum is not a bible believer. Jesus believed in a flood. He validated the writings of Moses. People who do NOT believe in a real creation week, and flood etc can call themselves believers, that is all well and good. However, they are not bible believers in any real way. I try not to argue with believers on things Christian...but I will address the claims of people -and I do not care what they call themselves, who wave off Genesis and creation, Adam and Eve, the flood etc.

 

[lesliedellow]

A Christian as defined by this forum is not a bible believer.

Where in the Bible does it say anything about the laws of nature having, very conveniently, having been different in the past?

I must have missed that bit.

 

[dad]

Where in the Bible does it say anything about the laws of nature having, very conveniently, having been different in the past?

I must have missed that bit.

What has that to do with the quote you are supposedly addressing??

 

[PsychoSarah]

A Christian as defined by this forum is not a bible believer. Jesus believed in a flood. He validated the writings of Moses. People who do NOT believe in a real creation week, and flood etc can call themselves believers, that is all well and good. However, they are not bible believers in any real way. I try not to argue with believers on things Christian...but I will address the claims of people -and I do not care what they call themselves, who wave off Genesis and creation, Adam and Eve, the flood etc.

I thought a Christian was literally someone who accepted Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, and that was it.

 

[lesliedellow]

What has that to do with the quote you are supposedly addressing??

You, presumably, cast yourself in the role of "Bible believer," and yet you are quite happy to make up ad hoc hypotheses which have no support in the Bible and, for that matter, no support anywhere else.

 

[dad]

I thought a Christian was literally someone who accepted Jesus Christ as their lord and savior, and that was it.

Right. That has little to do with Genesis and what it says.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Right. That has little to do with Genesis and what it says.

True enough, I suppose.

 

[dad]

You, presumably, cast yourself in the role of "Bible believer," and yet you are quite happy to make up ad hoc hypotheses which have no support in the Bible and, for that matter, no support anywhere else.

Absurd. The future being different is not even a question or in doubt. This present earth is not constant, nor anything in it.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Absurd. The future being different is not even a question or in doubt. This present earth is not constant, nor anything in it.

The laws of physics generally are (black holes had to ruin it, amongst other things that don't really warp stuff on earth).

 

[dad]

True enough, I suppose.

What gets my goat is when people want to make out like Jesus was not the creator of the world...that He did not really created Adam and Eve...etc. I find that luke warm. Believe or get off the pot!

 

[bhsmte]

Absurd. The future being different is not even a question or in doubt. This present earth is not constant, nor anything in it.

Aren't you dizzy from running around in circles?