A Pondering of the Peculiar (4)

[PsychoSarah]

Has nothing to do with God and this is evidenced by the vast majority of people who do believe in God, agree with evolution.

I get a kick out of the media thing, that is really funny.

Yes, because so much media is going "god is dead".

 

[lesliedellow]

Yes, because so much media is going "god is dead".

Unless they are familiar with Nietzsche, or 1960's theology, I doubt if many people have heard that phrase.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Unless they are familiar with Nietzsche, or 1960's theology, I doubt if many people have heard that phrase.

Really?

 

[lesliedellow]

Really?

Really. I certainly don't hear it issuing out of every loudspeaker, or in every newspaper I open.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Really. I certainly don't hear it issuing out of every loudspeaker, or in every newspaper I open.

Oh that is so strange, because surely all media is forcing atheism onto the public

 

[Loudmouth]

Ever study the spark plug of your heart muscle? Why do you think a mechanical pacemaker is used when the heart fails to work properly?

A pacemaker does not ignite hydrocarbon vapor in the heart. If you understood physiology you would understand how far off your analogy is.

Its our soul that makes the biological machine to be human. The Hebrew of Genesis reveals that God only created the soul in his image.. NOT your body.

Any evidence for this?

 

[GenemZ]

Cars don't have the same parts as biological entities. Seriously, not even close. And they aren't made out of the same materials, so they are further not a good comparison to life.

The car was not meant to be a comparison with a living thing. The question was? Which one is more complex in its construction? Remember, when the kidneys go bad, they get replaced by a machine to do the work. Kidney dialysis.

We are machines... our bodies are. Biological machines. When that soul leaves the body the ignition gets turned off.

 

[bhsmte]

The car was not meant to be a comparison with a living thing. The question was? Which one is more complex in its construction? Remember, when the kidneys go bad, they get replaced by a machine to do the work. Kidney dialysis.

We are machines... our bodies are. Biological machines. When that soul leaves the body the ignition gets turned off.

You can believe a soul exists, but you have no objective evidence for the same.

What happens to the soul, in the person who is brain dead in a coma?

 

[GenemZ]

A machine made of metal is not comparable to one made of flesh. Cars don't reproduce, cars don't think. Show me a machine which has DNA that replicates.

How did all this ultra complexity become "constructed?" Random chance? You have to have more faith than a Muslim fanatic flying a plane into a building to believe biological life could have started without someone controlling the design. The car is primitive in comparison and you can see that much. The body is a biological machine. What it is made out of is inconsequential. Computers can repair themselves when they get a virus, or a bug. They had to be programmed. So did your DNA.

 

[bhsmte]

How did all this ultra complexity become "constructed?" Random chance? You have to have more faith than a Muslim fanatic flying a plane into a building to believe biological life could have started without someone controlling the design. The car is primitive in comparison and you can see that much. The body is a biological machine. What it is made out of is inconsequential. Computers can repair themselves when they get a virus, or a bug. They had to be programmed. So did your DNA.

Who created your designer?

 

[GenemZ]

You can believe a soul exists, but you have no objective evidence for the same.

What happens to the soul, in the person who is brain dead in a coma?

Tell me? You should know.

What reacts to my words is your soul.

 

[bhsmte]

Tell me? You should know.

What reacts to my words is your soul.

Avoiding another question are we?

If you are able, please answer the question.

 

[lesliedellow]

Who created your designer?

God is eternal. We, however, most definitely are not.

 

[bhsmte]

God is eternal. We, however, most definitely are not.

How do you know that?

 

[lesliedellow]

How do you know that?

Because, in case you hadn't noticed, humans have a tendency to die.

Whilst the existence of the Christian God requires an assessment of how likely his existence is, if he does exist, he is eternal by definition.

 

[bhsmte]

Because, in case you hadn't noticed, humans have a tendency to die.

Whilst the existence of the Christian God requires an assessment of how likely his existence is, if he does exist, he is eternal by definition.

Not talking about humans.

Why would a God have to be eternal by definition, if he exists?

 

[lesliedellow]

Not talking about humans.

Why would a God have to be eternal by definition, if he exists?

Because he is. In the Bible he is represented as being eternal, and, therefore, if the biblical God exists, he is eternal. That must be a tautology.

 

[bhsmte]

Because he is. In the Bible he is represented as being eternal, and, therefore, if the biblical God exists, he is eternal. That must be a tautology.

Because he is, is not reliable evidence. You can believe that on faith, that is fine, but there is no objective evidence to support the eternal claim. And, the bible, is not objective evidence.

 

[lesliedellow]

Because he is, is not reliable evidence. You can believe that on faith, that is fine, but there is no objective evidence to support the eternal claim. And, the bible, is not objective evidence.

Like I said, the existence of God - specifically the biblical God - requires an assessment of probability - but if he does exist, he is by definition eternal. I was not presenting evidence for existence.

In my experience, when atheists use the word evidence, in connection with God, they mean something which would leave them with absolutely no wriggle room. If there is wriggle room, as there inevitably must be, they just say, "That's not proof."

 

[Loudmouth]

How did all this ultra complexity become "constructed?" Random chance?

Through evolution, not random chance.