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1 Corinthians 2:14
The person without the spirit does not accept
the things that come from the Spirit of God
but considers them foolishness, and cannot
understand them because they are discerned
only through the Spirit.
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That attitude can make you flunk kindergarten.I'm always a bit leery of those who would prefer to tell me what I should think, not how I should think.
Ya think?The theists with the monkey and A.E.N. as their avatars both fall into this category.
What do you think I'm doing here? counting flowers on the wall?I can only surmise it's because they haven't subjected the litmus test to their own beliefs,
This failure has a tough question for them ex Bible thumpers:and they they fail to keep in mind that most atheists here on CF used to be bible thumpers too.
If you can not learn the simplest? Why should we venture into the deeper?
By the way... congratulations on your son receiving honors at the university!
I said the best arguments, not the simplest ones. Learning and believing are two different things.
Why should I want to argue with someone who is hardwired in their soul to reject anything I say? If I thought you wanted to gain in understanding, rather than being bored and in need of a challenge of your wits? I might take the energy and effort. But, as for now..
2 Timothy 3:7.
They are forever inquiring and getting information,
but are never able to arrive at a recognition and
knowledge of the Truth.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
You're not trying hard enough. Regurgitating bible verses will only get you a star in Sunday school, not in the real world.
But for whatever reason, no matter what, that is what I feel to be a legitimate possibility, and it is the source of consistent, looming despair. I have no desire to feel this way, I just do.
That attitude can make you flunk kindergarten.
... what made you turn your back on it and go atheist?
As for "turning my back on it," it's the same process I used when determining that there was likely no Santa, Tooth Fairy, Lost Boys or Easter Bunny. That's why learning to critically evaluate claims is so important for adults, otherwise you end up believing in myths.
In other words, you lost the joy of your salvation?As for "turning my back on it," it's the same process I used when determining that there was likely no Santa, Tooth Fairy, Lost Boys or Easter Bunny. That's why learning to critically evaluate claims is so important for adults, otherwise you end up believing in myths.
That's a possibility too, but I normally don't go that route if they claim to have been saved at one time.You never entered in the first place.
genez said:Only by the Lord presenting his infinitely superior power more than five times.
Atheos canadensis said:Hell has a purpose, but its purpose is not to protect the saved from the damned as you pretend; it's punishment by eternal torture, pure and simple. If God really just wanted to allow the saved to live in peace without interference then He could simply let the unsaved cease to exists after they die. Problem solved without the need for eternal torture.
So cling to your "loving" God if you wish, but don't pretend Hell is some sort of unavoidable necessity. If you think the unbelievers deserve eternal torture then that's your prerogative, but don't try to absolve your god by pretending it serves any purpose beyond punishment.
That's a possibility too, but I normally don't go that route if they claim to have been saved at one time.
I'll give them the benefit of a doubt; but I do find it odd that someone can voluntarily turn his/her back on all that.
Paul was certainly correct, when he said that those who call themselves "wise"* run the risk of becoming atheists.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
* Example: Homo sapiens.
There are pastors who first get saved after serving years in the ministry.
This is insane.
The church won't let gays minister, or women, but the unsaved pretending to be saved? Knock yourself out!
Which is exactly what you and all the other creationists here do, all you ever do is talk,They were trained to say the right words that religious people want to hear.
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