A new CF, an old vision

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Even I thank you! And you KNOW how difficult I am!

ya caught that.

I guess all my warnings are obsolete now too, ???

 

[wmc1982]

And God wanted Hitler in or just allow it b/c of human will?

Your straying from the point. God is in control. God let Hitler do what he did for a purpose. God will allow and control what happens in this forum, whether it be good or bad.

The death of God's Son was very bad on the surface (what we could only see), but He not only allowed, but He made it happen. Life is all about sacrifice.

 

[Erwin]

You know like a guy has been working for a big corporation for years sadly with out warning he is fired and all he gets is a cheap watch.. thats kinda how staff feels.

That's not the intention. Because the intention was never to make staff feel like the are "working" for CF, but that they are "working" for the members, and if anything, it's the members who appoint and members who remove. At least, that's the future plan. My apologies if staff feel that way. I'm not posting in the staff forums because I am busy doing some server things at the moment and I need to do it as Saturday is going by fast and I have things to do this evening. Sorry to all staff if this came as a surprise - put it this way, as mentioned, it's a unilateral decision I made to essentially "reboot" the whole framework of CF.

 

[futuredoc]

Its hard to under stand what staff feels right now unless your on staff. We have work so hard to make this site as safe and comfortable for memebers.... some people have been modding for years, and most of us love to Mod. It feels like were getting thrown out in the cold. You know like a guy has been working for a big corporation for years sadly with out warning he is fired and all he gets is a cheap watch.. thats kinda how staff feels.

We're all nervous about change...but you saying I can't understand because I'm not on staff is like me saying...you can't understand because you're too young. You would be really offended (quite rightly) if I said well "You just can't understand how much better this will be because you're too young."

Our perspectives are different but they are no less valid. Once again being on saff does not make you more special or "in the know" than the rest of us.

 

[No Swansong]

Even I thank you! And you KNOW how difficult I am!

Thanks Kiwi that means a lot to me.

 

[TasManOfGod]

One of the things that the new regime will have to avoid and that is the establishing of specific forums that promote an activity that is specifically excluded from the holiness of God. Experience has shown that there can be no winners in that exercise in foolishness

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Your straying from the point. God is in control. God let Hitler do what he did for a purpose. God will allow and control what happens in this forum, whether it be good or bad.

The death of God's Son was very bad, especially for Him. But He not only allowed, but He made it happen. Life is all about sacrifice.

I think once again that Jesus is being sacrificed for the nation. But that's Erwins business, I will continue where I feel God leads as do we all.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

So last time I checked in it was 6 pages long... now it's 69. Can anyone bring me up to speed?

 

[drstevej]

That's not the intention. Because the intention was never to make staff feel like the are "working" for CF, but that they are "working" for the members, and if anything, it's the members who appoint and members who remove. At least, that's the future plan. My apologies if staff feel that way. I'm not posting in the staff forums because I am busy doing some server things at the moment and I need to do it as Saturday is going by fast and I have things to do this evening. Sorry to all staff if this came as a surprise - put it this way, as mentioned, it's a unilateral decision I made to essentially "reboot" the whole framework of CF.

And they are feeling the boot.

 

[wmc1982]

Shake it up, Erwin! That's exactly what this place needs.

Yep, the water has become stagnant. The people who are uncomfortable are the ones who need to be uprooted. (for the most part)

 

[EdmundBlackadderTheThird]

So last time I checked in it was 6 pages long... now it's 69. Can anyone bring me up to speed?

Yeah people griping, people giving thumbs up, people discussing the fine points, staff quitting, staff staying, and Erwin sticking to his guns.

 

[Leanna]

Its hard to under stand what staff feels right now unless your on staff. We have work so hard to make this site as safe and comfortable for memebers.... some people have been modding for years, and most of us love to Mod. It feels like were getting thrown out in the cold. You know like a guy has been working for a big corporation for years sadly with out warning he is fired and all he gets is a cheap watch.. thats kinda how staff feels.

But you are NOT fired. Is that so hard to understand? You are still a mod now, and you can run again.

You know you guys gotta stop this whole "you can't understand unless you are on staff" stuff.... this is the very reason why I did not apply for staff although I got a PM asking me to do so.... I just couldn't join this kind of team. Its yucky.

 

[RedTulipMom]

Brothers and Sisters....

I came to Christian Forums just a few short months ago. There are still many areas of CF that I haven't visited. There are many nuances I haven't explored and much I do not know or understand of the workings of CF. I do not write the following words from a heart that has any CF agenda.

I do write from a heart of grief.... I've spent about a half hour reading Erwin's original post as well as flipping through pages of the posts that have followed. There is no way to read through every one.

Today is my birthday. I have experienced an incredible outpouring of love from my brothers and sisters on this forum. If it had not been for what I've experienced here, I really wouldn't have had much of a birthday. It's been amazing. So, I flip over to see what Erwin has envisioned for CF and what I read is backbiting and jealousy and distrust and murmuring.... we are the Christians who are to be salt and light????? If I were an unbeliever who had stumbled onto this thread I would run for the hills based on the display of emotion one against another in a forum where we are to love one another. I would say we have proven atheistic skeptics correct in their assumptions we are no different than the world....shame on us!!!!

When I first read Erwin's post, I was skeptical as to whether a new "open" forum could possibly work. Not because I feel I need to be protected. But because I fear that just what has happened in this thread will continue and nonbelievers who come for the answers to their questions might be rebuffed and never come into a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Christ never intended for our churches, our houses of worship, our "Christian Forums" to be an escape route. If you're looking for peace and safety, Christianity isn't for you. We are to be a hospital for the sick. The last stop before someone spends an eternity in hell. And, as it pertains to believers, a place where we greet one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs as we live out our faith before a lost and dying world.

Erwin, I will continue in my support of CF. Brothers and Sisters, I love you and pray God will fill you with His conviction and a refreshed love one for another and for those He intends to bring to us for His purposes and glory!!!

very wise

 

[Saucy]

Erwin just doesn't get it.

 

[futuredoc]

So last time I checked in it was 6 pages long... now it's 69. Can anyone bring me up to speed?

I'd run while you still have the chance....SOme of the staff feel like they've been dismissed without so much as a thank you or good-bye, some feel that Erwin has "sold out" and that this site will no longer be CHristian and others feel like its a welcome change.

I don't think I've missed anyone

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

Yeah people griping, people giving thumbs up, people discussing the fine points, staff quitting, staff staying, and Erwin sticking to his guns.

Who's quitting staff? (feel free to PM me if you don't want to say in this thread)

 

[WV25115]

Erwin, this is the best thing I have read since I first discovered CF. I had just about given up on this entire place. My respect for you has just soared through the roof. I will be devoting time in prayer each day for you and for this site.

Thank you so much for all that you have done and continue to do here at CF.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Yep, the water has become stagnant. The people who are uncomfortable are the ones who need to be uprooted. (for the most part)

Do you mean the ones that don't agree with the change? You shouldn't have much problem there.

 

[No Swansong]

So last time I checked in it was 6 pages long... now it's 69. Can anyone bring me up to speed?

SOTFB

Some like it some don't
Some are leaving some are saying good riddance

Pretty much all you have missed my young friend. How is the little Fishy project coming along?

 

[Letalis]

Yeah people griping, people giving thumbs up, people discussing the fine points, staff quitting, staff staying, and Erwin sticking to his guns.