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sparklecat

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They SHOULD be able to force them to change it... If you aren't a Christian, you shouldn't be allowed to post under the tag that you are.

Who but God is able to determine who is and is not a Christian?


Is the desire to clearly label people worth shutting out even one Christian and telling them they aren't good enough?
 
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So, Erwin, will you allow Jehovah's Witness, Latter-Day-Saints, and all who disagree w/ the Trinity and Nicene Creed to be called "Christians".
It's a controversial thing isn't it. The Christian icon is so generic - one way to address this issue is to remove the generic Christian icon and force every member to utilise a specific denominational icon such as Lutheran, or Mormon, or Atheistic Christian (never knew they existed) - so that way you know exactly what the person's background is.
 
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Who but God is able to determine who is and is not a Christian?


Is the desire to clearly label people worth shutting out even one Christian and telling them they aren't good enough?
Well, let's just all call ourselves Islamics charismatics and God can sort that out too.
 
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Who but God is able to determine who is and is not a Christian?


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Will we not judge angels?
If someone comes in from the FlatEarthers, will we agree they are a scientist? Same thing.
Some things are obviously not christian.
 
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Will we not judge angels?
If someone comes in from the FlatEarthers, will we agree they are a scientist? Same thing.
Some things are obviously not christian.
Ya, I thought this forum was ALL scientologists when I first started, so who can know what anymore, but it's very foggy and that isn't christianity.
 
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Such as:
If you don't believe Jesus is God, you aren't a Christian. If you don't believe in the Trinity, you aren't a Christian.
If you don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, you aren't a Christian.
If you don't believe the disciples were right in their teachings, or that the Bible is right, you aren't a Christian.

Multiple things can judge whether or not you are a Christian.
 
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Will we not judge angels?
If someone comes in from the FlatEarthers, will we agree they are a scientist? Same thing.
Some things are obviously not christian.

I see 'scientist' as a human-made definition. I'm presuming that you don't see 'Christian' in the same way, and that you're not judging any angels just yet.
 
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Heh...

You know the interesting thing about Erwin's rules is that they protect lots of people. It isn't just non-Christians or marginal sects of Christianity that could claim to be Christian without that claim being subject to scrutiny.

According to the rules, some people could mask a lot of hatred in the name of Christ and no-one could deny they were a Christian. They could mix otherwise reasonable concerns about the new rules with outright lies about the forum, and no-one could thereby say they were not Christian. They could even demand authority over the spiritual lives of others or offer the trappings of idol worship as an essential Christian doctrine. They could mask the petty jealosy by which they seek to keep others from their own faith as a concern for the welfare of its members. They could even spam the forum with links to other sites, all the while pretending that their actions were intended to help defend the faith. Indeed some people so taken with anger and hatred could do an amazing number of deceitful things and not have their faith in Jesus questioned at all.

Of course others could question whether their actions were truly motivated by Christian faith. One could question whether or not the actions of such individuals went beyond the pale or even exhibited signs of bad faith. One could question these things. But what one could not do is to question whether or not such individuals were actually Christian.

It seems that the forum is even more open than some would suppose.
 
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It's become secular...

It is not your site. It is CHRISTIAN FORUMS. You are guests here, you have to be under our rules, our guidelines. If non-christians are given the same room and are put on the same levels as Christians on this forum, then this is no longer Christian Forums, but Secular Forums...
 
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Given what I've read in here the past few days, that would be me and people like me.



Pardon me while I go spread more darkness throughout the forums.
I've been reading alot of darkness in the last few dfays on these forums

And surprisingly not one of those posters had an atheist or non christian icon
 
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I would not want to know a members background, unless the member wanted it public. OTOH, whom am I to judge who is more Christian then I.. Sinned today and have not asked for forgiveness yet, makes me no better then a non-Christian IMHO. We are suppose to love our enemies.

Have to go and pray now.
 
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I agree too. It's not that simple is it.
 
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I agree too. It's not that simple is it.

No it is not simple.. church scares me with the gossip behind backs.. only can rely on oneself to be kind, gentle and not get upset and do bad in return. Try to be a good person. It is hard, but the rewards are awesome. Have to be a servant, even to the non-Christians.

Makes ya think, have never asked a guest about their religion at my home.. wonder if I was among heathens, but, they seemed all nice

Thanks for all the hard work Erwin..
 
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I agree too. It's not that simple is it.
Erwin, being the owner of the largest christian forum does NOT give you the right to change the definition of Christianity. Constantine at least had council that made decisions. This isn't your God given right. I don't know why you can't see that.
Jesus died, the Pharisee's killed Him. So I can see your plan working, unfortunately, but you have no right and do you really want to be the new Pontius Pilete, or the greater than Constantine? Have a council decide, of church leaders.
 
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