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A new CF, an old vision (2)

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I seriously hope you were joking and this post isn't serious
 
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And the Heretics always claim legalism as the problem for their false views. Keep it up, heretic.

Or I can view you as an "heretic" rather than a Christian. Heresy is even worse than schism. If people separate themselves from teaching that is positively false and unscriptural, they ought to be praised rather than reproved. In such cases separation is a virtue and not a sin.
 
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Well... we are either spirit-controlled or not? If you want rules, than it is control by man-made rules.

If you want grace, allow God to rule.
Only people rule in CF. That's the problem.

Always has been, always will be.

That is because Erwin is not God, and he has effectively turned it over to those who have no respect for God, Jesus, or any other Christian who is devout.

In a way, Erwin has greased the squeakiest wheels and pandered to those with personal ideals of ethics that have nothing to do with either the Holy Bible or the faithful Christians for centuries.

This is modern world "Christianity; it is secular because that is the version that today's trends demand.

Erwin has made his choice. The rest will be interesting to watch. This is liberalism put to the acid test. And there just may well be more acid than ever seen before.
 
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First of all there were places to already speak with unbelievers. Now we are to be joined in all areas of a "Christian Forum" "Uniting All Christians As One Body"
The name and the slogan couldn't be farther from the truth now.
Actually maybe it will unite all the chrisiatan since they have to all together defend the faith instead of some hiding in there comfortable "pharisees only" synagogs.
"Hearing [them], he said: “Persons in health do not need a physician, but the ailing do. 13 Go, then, and learn what this means, ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners.” -Mat 9:12-13

Continue on to Psalm 53:3;"There is no one doing good,
Not even one." That means us Christians as well. Get of your high horse.

This apllies to christians aswell.
From the infallible Word of God.
which you mis-apply.

How can a fool moderate a "Christian Forum"?
"19 For it is written: “I will make the wisdom of the wise [men] perish, and the intelligence of the intellectual [men] I will shove aside.” 20 Where is the wise man? Where the scribe? Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing. 1Cor 1

"Looking straight at them Jesus said: “With men it is impossible, but not so with God, for all things are possible with God." -Mat 10:27



I agree with you.
It would have been better for Erwin to sell CF than to sell out like this...
Is someone holding a gun to your head? Last I knew this was Erwin's forum. There is a 'Logout' button.
 
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More like different views of the same Jesus, but there are already a lot of different opinions there. It's natural that people have different views, because we're not clones, and each person understands the world around him/her in a different way.
 
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Of course I was serious.

 
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God created His ordained Governments and has effectively turned it over to those who have no respect for God. Is this any different?
 
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This thread shows me the true distain some Christians have for those who aren't Christian. I'm utterly disgusted. Erwin is wise in his decisions, its already allowing many intentions and negative prejudices be brought to light.

I'm sick of WAR mentality. I am not a force of evil to be fought against. I am not a pawn of evil either. I am not persecuting you by simply existing or discussing important topics. I am a human being, just like you. I just don't have knowledge of Christ like you do. If you think that makes me less than you, a threat to you or your family, a threat to the forum, or a threat to live as you please, you're dead wrong.

Though some would label me a gay liberal babykiller simply because of my lack of Christ, I understand the vast majority of Christians here are reasonable people. Thank you for being what you are and showing the love that Christ talked about.
 
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The name calling is getting pretty bad in this thread.

Could we perhaps tone it down a notch?

If all the not-christians were booted out we would still be at each others throats. They are not the problem. We are.
 
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People who constantly cry legalism are borderline heretics who are afraid to confront their incorrect beliefs.
thanks for that--I have studied the scriptures for many years and never knew until now that the Apostle Paul was a "borderline heretic"
very informative
 
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Ya. "God's Rules" Every cult leader in history wanted his followers to follow "God's Rules".

Thankfully Erwin isn't arrogant enough to claim divine inspiration, or I'd probably be leaving too.
That doesn't mean others aren't claiming it (divine inspiration) for him
 
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Church is spiritual. Not organizational or body. Christians as a community is a CHURCH.

And yes, they did meet as a "church" in people's homes.
to quote my 4 year old, "Well, DUH!"
yes, I know the church is spiritual, but the "spritual church" or any church in any form did not exist when Christ uttered the words you quoted.
Christ uttered those words when he rose to heaven, the church was born some ten days later at Pentecost.
 
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If all the not-christians were booted out we would still be at each others throats. They are not the problem. We are.
You are right. Its the believers who are the problem. I can see the unbelievers behave better in other forums. What example we are setting. Are we Christ-like or doctrine-lovers?
 
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