A New Allegation and New Witnesses - Kavanaugh

[DaDad]

... whining about "innocent before proven guilt" or "process" ...

Yeah, we want a NEW criteria for "Justice". We want EVERYONE to PROVE they've NEVER committed any Civil or Criminal offense, -- including being a Witch. OTHERWISE WE'LL BURN YOU AT THE STAKE.

Perhaps "music" is your forte, 'cause it certainly ain't "jurisprudence".
Whew,
DaDad

 

[Ringo84]

Some of us certainly do want a "new" criteria for justice, but it's not really new. Powerful, wealthy men are instantly and unconditionally believed, despite ridiculous assertions and justifications (doppelgangers, 35 year old calendars). Yet when a chance is given to get to the bottom of what happened with an investigation, this is seen as "unfair" and accompanied with a lot of whining about "process" and "presumption of innocence".

Meanwhile, women who come forward are instantly and unconditionally disbelieved and subjected to death threats, accusations about their personal and professional lives, and treated as lying publicity hounds who were "asking for it" because of what she was wearing or who are "mistaken" (without evidence).

Yes....this situation has definitely exposed how "justice" works for victims of sexual assault in the supposedly "modern" age of 2018.
Ringo

 

[DaDad]

Some of us certainly do want a "new" criteria for justice, but it's not really new. ...

So were you a witch in your former life? Prove you weren't. -- But more importantly, prove you AREN'T.

'Cause we burn witches.
Thanks,
DaDad

 

[Arcangl86]

Yeah, we want a NEW criteria for "Justice". We want EVERYONE to PROVE they've NEVER committed any Civil or Criminal offense, -- including being a Witch. OTHERWISE WE'LL BURN YOU AT THE STAKE.

Perhaps "music" is your forte, 'cause it certainly ain't "jurisprudence".
Whew,
DaDad

Not giving somebody a life time appointment to the Supreme Court is the same as burning them at the stake?

 

[Ringo84]

An investigation is an investigation. Not a witch hunt.

Interesting reaction, though. Can't help but wonder if some members of this forum themselves have some skeletons in their closet that they're afraid might one day be exposed....
Ringo

 

[Ringo84]

Not giving somebody a life time appointment to the Supreme Court is the same as burning them at the stake?

Subjecting a powerful man to an impartial investigation that may or may not absolve him is seen as "burning at the stake", for some odd reason. Funny since all these people swear up and down that Kavanaugh is innocent and that the proof will bear that out.....
Ringo

 

[SolomonVII]

Democrats have effectively destroyed the me too movement.

 

[Allandavid]

Subjecting a powerful man to an impartial investigation that may or may not absolve him is seen as "burning at the stake", for some odd reason. Funny since all these people swear up and down that Kavanaugh is innocent and that the proof will bear that out.....
Ringo

Funny too, that we now have 3 women (and counting...?) who claim sex offences against Kavanaugh and all 3 eagerly invite an FBI investigation into their claims...!

The ‘innocent’ side...? Won’t go near an investigation and refuse to have Mark Judge testify...

Who’s hiding what...hmmmm...?

 

[Ringo84]

Funny too, that we now have 3 women (and counting...?) who claim sex offences against Kavanaugh and all 3 eagerly invite an FBI investigation into their claims...!

The ‘innocent’ side...? Won’t go near an investigation and refuse to have Mark Judge testify...

Who’s hiding what...hmmmm...?

EXACTLY. And many of those on the "Kavanaugh is innocent" side are working overtime to convince us that an investigation is unnecessary and "unamerican". They protest too much.
Ringo

 

[AkidoMaster]

EXACTLY. And many of those on the "Kavanaugh is innocent" side are working overtime to convince us that an investigation is unnecessary and "unamerican". They protest too much.
Ringo

Kavanaugh is innocent until proven guilty.

What are they going to investigate? There is no specific date, there is no recollections of where it supposedly happened. The four supposed witnesses contradict the accusation.

Please enlighten us. What exactly can they investigate?

 

[Ringo84]

Kavanaugh is innocent until proven guilty.

What are they going to investigate? There is no specific date, there is no recollections of where it supposedly happened. The four supposed witnesses contradict the accusation.

Please enlighten us. What exactly can they investigate?

Kavanaugh's former roommate:
Peter Kauffmann on Twitter

Two women who wanted to be dropped from the '65 women' letter:
Peter Kauffmann on Twitter

Another alleged victim that Grassley's office is reportedly in talks with:
Paul McLeod on Twitter

Judge and other partygoers:
Senate Judiciary on Twitter
Ringo

 

[AkidoMaster]

Kavanaugh's former roommate:
Peter Kauffmann on Twitter

He states plainly he has no knowledge of the supposed event only that Kavanaugh was a heavy drinker.

Two women who wanted to be dropped from the '65 women' letter:
Peter Kauffmann on Twitter

Another alleged victim that Grassley's office is reportedly in talks with:
Paul McLeod on Twitter

The NYT debunked their own report when they stated they interview two dozen potential witnesses and could find no one to corroborate the story

Judge and other partygoers:
Senate Judiciary on Twitter
Ringo

Everything you linked to is heresay.

Not proof and not admissible in court.

 

[Ringo84]

Everything you linked to is heresay.

Not proof and not admissible in court.

Seems like several of those could help establish a pattern of behavior, which is something worth investigating.

There are also Deborah Ramirez's claims.
Ringo

 

[AkidoMaster]

There are also Deborah Ramirez's claims.
Ringo

Who the NYT admitted interviewing two dozen people and could find no one who had any recollection of anything happening.

Yet they ran the story any way.

 

[Ringo84]

Who the NYT admitted interviewing two dozen people and could find no one who had any recollection of anything happening.

Yet they ran the story any way.

New Yorker’s Mayer: Ramirez Was Not Initial Source—Other Yale Grads Were

Seems like there are others who could corroborate her story.
Ringo

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

A clean up was done.
The flaming needs to stop. Debate needs to be done without accusing each other of ugly things.

Discussion needs to be on the topic presented in the OP and what relates to that.​

 

[DaDad]

Not giving somebody a life time appointment to the Supreme Court is the same as burning them at the stake?

"Burning" is burning. Lies are lies. Theft is theft. Murder is murder. Did you what to parse why any level of abuse is "acceptable"?

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[Halbhh]

Hope we are not at this situation --

Trump on God: 'I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness'

 

[Allandavid]

Kavanaugh is innocent until proven guilty.

What are they going to investigate? There is no specific date, there is no recollections of where it supposedly happened. The four supposed witnesses contradict the accusation.

Please enlighten us. What exactly can they investigate?

Haha.....just like the Mueller investigation. Critics claim that there’s “nothing” to find. And then the investigation gets under way and what do we see...? People flipping or coming forward with...evidence!

 

[Ringo84]

Well, as we all know, evidence only counts if it's not of the wrongdoing of prominent conservatives.
Ringo