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Gabriel Anton

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Peace be with you.

I'm with the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God.

This passage reveals the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Living Ark of the New and Eternal Covenant, as I will now show with the following Biblical passages.

If you believe the Blessed Virgin Mary to be the Living Ark of the New and Eternal Covenant, then to Live, you must enter the Ark or you Die. You know this or you don't know this?

Genesis 7 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
Chapter 7
1 Then the Lord said to Noah: Go into the ark, you and all your household, for you alone in this generation have I found to be righteous before me.
17 The flood continued upon the earth for forty days. As the waters increased, they lifted the ark, so that it rose above the earth. 18 The waters swelled and increased greatly on the earth, but the ark floated on the surface of the waters. 19 Higher and higher on the earth the waters swelled, until all the highest mountains under the heavens were submerged. 20 The waters swelled fifteen cubits higher than the submerged mountains. 21 All creatures that moved on earth perished: birds, tame animals, wild animals, and all that teemed on the earth, as well as all humankind. 22 Everything on dry land with the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 The Lordwiped out every being on earth: human beings and animals, the crawling things and the birds of the air; all were wiped out from the earth. Only Noah and those with him in the ark were left.

That's why I suggested this:

"33 Days of Consecration to the Blessed Virgin Mary Every Year is Necessary in order to be United to Jesus Christ for your Salvation."

God bless you.
 
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How can you challenge protestants with the above if the post is made in the catholic subforum. They wouldn't be allowed to respond to the challenge.
So, the challenge means nothing does it

But thank you for explaining, catholics believe:

The blessed virgin Mary is the living ark of the new and eternal covenant.


Most enlightening!
 
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Today is Divine Mercy Sunday, I plan on taking my family out to lunch, as way of evangelizing them, and then praying and meditating a bit, before responding to everything here, which is a shame because looks like a lot has happened since I was gone. I'll pray the Litany of Trust in Divine Mercy for everyone here

In the Name of The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit
Amen

Divine Mercy, gushing forth from the bosom of the Father,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, greatest attribute of God,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, incomprehensible mystery,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, fountain gushing forth from the mystery of the Most Blessed Trinity,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, unfathomed by any intellect, human or angelic,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, from which wells forth all life and happiness,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, better than the heavens,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, source of miracles and wonders,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, encompassing the whole universe,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, descending to earth in the Person of the Incarnate Word,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, which flowed out from the open wound of the Heart of Jesus,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, enclosed in the Heart of Jesus for us, and especially for sinners,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, unfathomed in the institution of the Sacred Host,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in the founding of Holy Church,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in the Sacrament of Holy Baptism,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in our justification through Jesus Christ,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, accompanying us through our whole life,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, embracing us especially at the hour of death,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, endowing us with immortal life,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, accompanying us every moment of our life,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, shielding us from the fire of hell,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in the conversion of hardened sinners,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, astonishment for Angels, incomprehensible to Saints,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, unfathomed in all the mysteries of God,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, lifting us out of every misery,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, source of our happiness and joy,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in calling us forth from nothingness to existence,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, embracing all the works of His hands,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, crown of all of God's handiwork,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in which we are all immersed,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, sweet relief for anguished hearts,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, only hope of despairing souls,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, repose of hearts, peace amidst fear,
i Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, delight and ecstasy of holy souls,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, inspiring hope against all hope,
I Trust in You.

In the Name of The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit
Amen.

Have a good and holy Divine Mercy Sunday, everyone!
 
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Wait, I thought this was a forum for debating, as the name implies, denomination-specific Theology. Is this why Protestants are attacking the OBOB forum? I saw threads with the exact titles when I started up this challenge, I actually plan on leading some of them here.
 
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Yes, is the Ark of Noah as well, being The Refuge of Sinners.
I don't know exactly, how important Marian devotion is for Salvation, but what I've read, heard and watched so far I know that is extremely important for one's spiritual life, but not necessary. One can, in theory be saved without Mary, but it is like next to impossible, you would have to be a complete moron not honour the Blessed Mother. I could wrong about this though.
If however your suggesting I say that for rhetorical reasons, I'm not fan of meddling with the truth, even if it's not even venial sinful. I hate relativism and non-truth philosophies with a fierce hatred, and one the arguments for these philosophies is that, "people are never act as though there were an absolute truth, they always behave differently in different social situations," so I try to be as honest as I can, though I still have a long way to go spiritually.
 
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Nay, a genuine desire for holiness is completely devoid of pride, it's all about God, and not you, in fact, when a person reaches a certain degree of holiness, God strips him or her of every and all pleasures so that, they do good purely for the sake of God, it's called The Dark Night of the Soul. You may have heard of St. Teresa of Calcutta having thoughts of extreme doubt, during a period of her life, well that was her Dark Night of the Soul.
I honestly believe that the biggest problem in the world today, is that too few people want to be saints, saints are a key part of the answer (The whole, being God Himself) to all the problems in the world today.
 
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I gave criticised catholic doctrine on catholic subforum and been told I am not allowed to do that, it breaks the rules of cf
 
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Sometimes I wonder if Mary even ever finds out that you guys do this kind of stuff in her name. I can't imagine she'd be too happy about it.
My guess is that Mary's thought about that comment, and particularly how at has addressed NONE of my arguments for Mary being the living Ark of the New Covenant, are somewhat akin to a more merciful, pitiful version of 2 Kings 19:21. But that's just a guess, I'm more interested in what God thinks, The Holy Spirit has let me know by providing me with the material I presented at the beginning of this thread and much more, The Son provides all of us with John 19:27.
 
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No, it's my marriage. My husband does not feel as I do theologically, and wants us to attend church together.
Would you like me to pray for your husband's conversion?
 
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Okay I'm retiring for tonight, some Protestants are raiding the OBOB Catholic forum so I'm going to lead them to this thread, and we'll see if things start to heat up. I'll conclude Divine Mercy Sunday with the Litany to Divine Mercy:

In the Name of The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit
Amen

Divine Mercy, gushing forth from the bosom of the Father,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, greatest attribute of God,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, incomprehensible mystery,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, fountain gushing forth from the mystery of the Most Blessed Trinity,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, unfathomed by any intellect, human or angelic,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, from which wells forth all life and happiness,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, better than the heavens,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, source of miracles and wonders,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, encompassing the whole universe,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, descending to earth in the Person of the Incarnate Word,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, which flowed out from the open wound of the Heart of Jesus,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, enclosed in the Heart of Jesus for us, and especially for sinners,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, unfathomed in the institution of the Sacred Host,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in the founding of Holy Church,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in the Sacrament of Holy Baptism,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in our justification through Jesus Christ,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, accompanying us through our whole life,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, embracing us especially at the hour of death,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, endowing us with immortal life,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, accompanying us every moment of our life,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, shielding us from the fire of hell,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in the conversion of hardened sinners,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, astonishment for Angels, incomprehensible to Saints,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, unfathomed in all the mysteries of God,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, lifting us out of every misery,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, source of our happiness and joy,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in calling us forth from nothingness to existence,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, embracing all the works of His hands,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, crown of all of God's handiwork,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, in which we are all immersed,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, sweet relief for anguished hearts,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, only hope of despairing souls,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, repose of hearts, peace amidst fear,
i Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, delight and ecstasy of holy souls,
I Trust in You.
Divine Mercy, inspiring hope against all hope,
I Trust in You.

Our Lady of Mercy,
Pray for us.

In the Name of The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit
Amen.
 
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I didn't address any of your points in the OP because after reading it the second and third times, it still sounded incoherent. It was like being asked to refute the statement, "salt flies wetter than physics". It was at that point where I thought, "Poor Mary, I really hope she doesn't have to hear about this stuff in Heaven" because it's probably ruining her experience. Hense, my response.
 
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I didn't address any of your points in the OP because after reading it the second and third times, it still sounded incoherent. It was like being asked to refute the statement, "salt flies wetter than physics".

Well, technically, one could say that while salt does not fly on its own, it can at least be moistened and flung, or transported wet via airplane, and is there for able to fly wetter than physics, as physics is an academic and scientific field of study and not a tangible or wettable object that can be transported via air.

Bazinga. And Salve, Regina.
 
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Hello, you posted a lot of stuff so I will just try to answer a few.

And that all generations will call her Blessed, which begs the question why don't Protestants call her Blessed, why are you frustrating the word of the Lord O Protestants?

We do call her blessed. Catholics seem to have this thing that because protestants don't gush about Mary or venerate her like they do, it means that we somehow hate her. We don't.



I noticed you used 'has' present tense when talking about Mary. Mary had God the Son physically dwelling in her. Mary is not still physically carrying Jesus. This doesn't really refute the claim that Scripture tell us that man’s heart is the new temple of God.


One of the blood types? I'm guessing that means more than one blood type was found. So that means either Mary had more than one blood type or it could be a hoax.



Yeah I disagree with you. The connection is pretty weak, especially since the woman in Revelation 12 is most likely the nation of Isreal and not Mary.


In regards to Jesus being the "Mediator" of the New Covenant and not the New Covenant itself, I reply that Jesus said that He was The Way, The Truth, and The Life, and what is the new Covenant if not The Way, The Truth, and The Life?

No, a covenant is basically a contract or agreement. A contract/agreement can point to The Truth but it is not The Truth itself, and a contract/agreement cannot itself give life.


Those are seperate events and they are consistent, they do not jump from person to person within the same story.
For example Issac consistently stays the Christ figure, but you switch Mary from a non human object to a man and Elizabeth to another man all within the same story.

This is a quote from a book called Who is my Mother:

“We are told that Mary is paralleled with David (both ‘arise’ and ‘set out’), while other times Mary is paralleled with the Ark. Moreover, the statement of David in 2 Sam 6:9, ‘How can the ark of the LORD come to me?,’ changes the parallelism from Mary/David to David/Elizabeth . . . The fluctuation of the parallelism from Mary/Ark to Mary/David to David/Elizabeth to Elizabeth/Obed-Edom seems too capricious to be valid, and is for that reason alone rightly rejected by most scholars” (Eric Svendsen, Who is my Mother? The Role of and Status of the Mother of Jesus in the New Testament and Roman Catholicism, [Calvary Press, 2001], p. 168).
 
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I think that's right. Although I've read over the OP several times, I can't find an actual challenge in it, unless we count daring anyone with another POV to go ahead and post their own lecture in the manner of the OP. I guess I expected something more specific.
 
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