A frank Question

[Time2BCounted]

I am getting at theology Jim, this is why i am asking


If they believe this verse literally then they are being negligent and destructive to anyone they help 'deliver' if they dont also stipulate the persons salvation in deliverance imho... because lack of salvation in this case will cause them to be worse off than BEFORE they joined for 'recovery'. On the other hand if they dont believe it their theology is more liberal than conservative in this regard

So i want to know which it is

Im not being beligerant im asking

 

[Time2BCounted]

GM are you implying no one has a right to question what they see as a clique and an agenda?

 

[Nadiine]

You guys can do whatever you want. I find this highly suspicious with the timing - and the toleration of liberalism.
they can join - in fact 1 or 2 already have...

I'm only sounding a bell as to what we might be seeing next as the liberally tolerant start filing in thru the doors one by one.
Then ask what conservative means in about 5 months' time.

 

[MrJim]

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Could someone please rep this lady...... She is outstanding

Bless you Greenie

gotcha

 

[JimfromOhio]

It's the TIMING GM, the timing.

Our defintion of timing or God's? God is adjusting our history to His purposes. He knows what He's doing. We all have to trust in His will, in His power to do His will, and His timing to do it when the time is right--and not until then. That's the essence of real faith. God carries out His will in His perfect power and timing.

 

[Nadiine]

Yup.

Rule 1.5 and the conjunctive "or."

Anyway, I hvae had a few productive and thoughtful conversations with Macrina around the site and her theology seems to fit into the ill-defined "conservative" camp on matters such as proper gender terms for the Deity and soteriology.

Coming from a hardcore liberal CaDan, i'm sure you set all us conservatives at ease with your SEAL OF APPROVAL of them.

Wow, I feel much better already! All my issues are now suddenly WASHED AWAY. rofl

 

[JimfromOhio]

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Could someone please rep this lady...... She is outstanding

Bless you Greenie

Gave her reps for ya.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

It's the TIMING GM, the timing.

Miraculous, isn't it?

GM are you implying no one has a right to question what they see as a clique and an agenda?

Yep

 

[Macrina]

Mac and belinda

Since you are standing members or asking to be, i would like to ask you to account for your theology if you actially believe this as you claim... not that im questioning your honesty at all, i just dont understand.

you havent addressed this
If you take this literally as you claim, why is it you would allow people who are not delivered of demons yet to join, and NOT stipulate that they be christians if they become delivered ? By doing this do you consider yourselves as a ministry team to be negligent and destructive in causing them to become worse off than they were when they joined you?



Luke 11
24When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

You want me to defend my theology?

If I encounter someone who is delivered of demons, I will do everything within my power to encourage that person to welcome in the Holy Spirit. I would even cite that very passage.

can you vouch for his agenda Jim? He made the statement that his reason for joining was specificly to address an issue concerning a forum he is overseeing, and now we suddenly have half the invisable forum here

Nonsense. Half the forum? Two staffers and one member joining recently does not comprise half the forum.

They accept our statement of belief.
That is it!!!!

We do not need to interogate people!
If only those whose theology is perfect are allowed, only God will be able to post here.

Please let's calm down!

Thank you.

1. I was one of the very first members of this forum and very excited about it. However, it became a little clear that this was more a spot for those both theologically *and* politically conservative. I didn't feel real comfortable with some of the threads, so I simply asked if that's how it was going to be. It was, so I said cool and left. I never threw a fit demanding nobody talk politicals or anything. The forum and I just weren't a good fit and so we went our separate ways.

FWIW, many of us (most?) here insist that political and theological conservativeness are two different categories. I still believe you fit here, and I was sorry to see you leave.

 

[JimfromOhio]

I am getting at theology Jim, this is why i am asking


If they believe this verse literally then they are being negligent and destructive to anyone they help 'deliver' if they dont also stipulate the persons salvation in deliverance imho... because lack of salvation in this case will cause them to be worse off than BEFORE they joined for 'recovery'. On the other hand if they dont believe it their theology is more liberal than conservative in this regard

So i want to know which it is

Im not being beligerant im asking

I don't understand the question you are asking them. I know its theology but remember, we are a forum that have different denominations and we all have different theology views.

 

[Nadiine]

Our defintion of timing or God's? God is adjusting our history to His purposes. He knows what He's doing. We all have to trust in His will, in His power to do His will, and His timing to do it when the time is right--and not until then. That's the essence of real faith. God carries out His will in His perfect power and timing.

well Jim, as I said, anyone can join if they want to claim they agree with the SOF. Am I going to stand there & say "you're lying"? hardly!

But I think this section needs to start praying for some discernment and wisdom.

 

[Tenebrae]

You guys can do whatever you want. I find this highly suspicious with the timing - and the toleration of liberalism.
they can join - in fact 1 or 2 already have...

I'm only sounding a bell as to what we might be seeing next as the liberally tolerant start filing in thru the doors one by one.
Then ask what conservative means in about 5 months' time.

I am still thinking about joining, however I wonder if I would ever cease being anything but that terrible liberal girl.


The timing, yup you would be correct on that, up until a few weeks ago, I had conservative Christians pegged (for many unfairly) as judgmental and bigoted.

when things were really rough for me in those weeks, I lost count of the thoughtful and caring messages I recieved in PMs or via reps, and seeing how those people still had their set of absolutes, however they could still and were being the hands and feet of Christ in a broken world. The largest number of support messages recieved were from various members of this forum. I'd like to name them, however too scared to incase I leave someone out and feelings are hurt

Conservative christians. I am sorry, I had you all pegged as judgemental and biggoted

And I WAS wrong

 

[Nadiine]

Miraculous, isn't it?

depends

 

[Tenebrae]

gotcha

Cheers

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I'm sorry, but this below? Is complete and utter CRAP.

There is no test to pass to get into CC. If one is now needed, y'all can take my name right off that membership roster.

It is my understand that one need only agree to the beliefs as are posted. One needn't undergo this type of scrutiny to be a member here.

I'm off to a Reformation rehearsal, and I will be praying for this forum in the meantime. I can only hope I come back here and find that this post below has been edited and that CC is NOT requiring theology tests to become members.

Mac and belinda

Since you are standing members or asking to be, i would like to ask you to account for your theology if you actially believe this as you claim... not that im questioning your honesty at all, i just dont understand.

you havent addressed this
If you take this literally as you claim, why is it you would allow people who are not delivered of demons yet to join, and NOT stipulate that they be christians if they become delivered ? By doing this do you consider yourselves as a ministry team to be negligent and destructive in causing them to become worse off than they were when they joined you?



Luke 11
24When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

 

[JimfromOhio]

well Jim, as I said, anyone can join if they want to claim they agree with the SOF. Am I going to stand there & say "you're lying"? hardly!

But I think this section needs to start praying for some discernment and wisdom.

Trusting God in this matter is all I can do while discerning and fellowshipping.

 

[Macrina]

To what?

"Whatever I agree with."

Yup.

Rule 1.5 and the conjunctive "or."

Anyway, I hvae had a few productive and thoughtful conversations with Macrina around the site and her theology seems to fit into the ill-defined "conservative" camp on matters such as proper gender terms for the Deity and soteriology.

{edited because GM asked nicely}

 

[Time2BCounted]

Mac you sidetracked the questions i asked so i am going to ask again


Belinda, you told me to ask these things in this thread, and yet youre not addresing the main point of the issue regarding your theology vs your possible negligence


Mac and belinda

Since you are standing members or asking to be, i would like to ask you to account for your theology if you actially believe this as you claim... not that im questioning your honesty at all, i just dont understand.

you havent addressed this
If you take this literally as you claim, why is it you would allow people who are not delivered of demons yet to join, and NOT stipulate that they be christians if they become delivered ? By doing this do you consider yourselves as a ministry team to be negligent and destructive in causing them to become worse off than they were when they joined you?

Also if they then remain with your forum arent they then hindering others if this passage is true??






Luke 11
24When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Mac you sidetracked the questions i asked so i am going to ask again


Belinda, you told me to ask these things in this thread, and yet youre not addresing the main point of the issue regarding your theology vs your possible negligence


Mac and belinda

Since you are standing members or asking to be, i would like to ask you to account for your theology if you actially believe this as you claim... not that im questioning your honesty at all, i just dont understand.

you havent addressed this
If you take this literally as you claim, why is it you would allow people who are not delivered of demons yet to join, and NOT stipulate that they be christians if they become delivered ? By doing this do you consider yourselves as a ministry team to be negligent and destructive in causing them to become worse off than they were when they joined you?

Also if they then remain with your forum arent they then hindering others if this passage is true??






Luke 11
24When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

Are we adding this theology to Wiki as part of the requirement for membership?

 

[GreenMunchkin]