A finely tuned universe that points to a God.

[AV1611VET]

It's called "willing suspension of disbelief."

I'm familiar with the term

Without it, fiction would be ineffectual.

Show me the Bible being sold in the FICTION section at a bookstore.

Are you implying the Bible is the greatest piece of fiction on earth?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm familiar with the term

Without it, fiction would be ineffectual.

Good. Then you'll understand when I say that some religions rely on an enforced suspension of disbelief. Dissent, doubt, and of course, disbelief are disgouraged... sometimes rather harshly.

Show me the Bible being sold in the FICTION section at a bookstore.

Show me why bookstores are your yardstick for determining truth.

Are you implying the Bible is the greatest piece of fiction on earth?

Of course not -- it's disjointed, full of undeveloped characters, and riddled with gaping plot holes.

There's much better fiction out there.

 

[Goonie]

I'm familiar with the term

Without it, fiction would be ineffectual.

Show me the Bible being sold in the FICTION section at a bookstore.

Are you implying the Bible is the greatest piece of fiction on earth?

Reminds me of a joke from red dwarf
Newsreader: Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archaeologists near Mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is presently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental." The page has been universally condemned by church leaders.

Red dwarf series 2, ep. 2

But to be serious the the correct place for the bible is on the religion section of the bookstore.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good. Then you'll understand when I say that some religions rely on an enforced suspension of disbelief.

In spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?

Dissent, doubt, and of course, disbelief are disgouraged... sometimes rather harshly.

If you say so.

Show me why bookstores are your yardstick for determining truth.

Looks like we both lose in the "show me" category, doesn't it?

Of course not -- it's disjointed, full of undeveloped characters, and riddled with gaping plot holes.

Must not be very good fiction then, eh?

There's much better fiction out there.

Is that why almost every person in America has a copy of Moby Dick on his bookshelf?

 

[AV1611VET]

Reminds me of a joke from red dwarf
Newsreader: Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archaeologists near Mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is presently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental." The page has been universally condemned by church leaders.

I'm glad you brought this up.

One theologian (Chuck Missler) describes the Bible as "written in spread-spectrum" design.

That means that you can tear a single page out, even several pages, and still get the message God intended.

 

[Goonie]

I'm glad you brought this up.

One theologian (Chuck Missler) describes the Bible as "written in spread-spectrum" design.

That means that you can tear a single page out, even several pages, and still get the message God intended.

Maybe, but if one of those pages is the one in Red Dwarf...

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe, but if one of those pages is the one in Red Dwarf...

... it would fall victim to:

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

 

[Goonie]

... it would fall victim to:

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Only if the page was not original to the book, but I joke and apologise for digressing from the op.

 

[AV1611VET]

Only if the page was not original to the book, but I joke and apologise for digressing from the op.

Not a problem!

 

[Davian]

Show me the Bible being sold in the FICTION section at a bookstore.

Show me the Bible being sold in the non-fiction section of a bookstore.

 

[AV1611VET]

Show me the Bible being sold in the non-fiction section of a bookstore.

The Bible belongs in a section all Its own.

 

[Davian]

The Bible belongs in a section all Its own.

religion

• Davian
• Apr 8, 2013

 

[Kylie]

QV please:SOURCE

So the Bible says God is real, therefore the Bible is right when it says God is real? My daughter can see the flaws in that argument. You'll have to do better.

And it still didn't give me a working definition of God. I notice religious folks never do provide such a definition.

 

[AV1611VET]

So the Bible says God is real, therefore the Bible is right when it says God is real?

Yes.

My daughter can see the flaws in that argument.

Ask your daughter what those flaws are.

I especially want to know if she says, "circular logic."

You'll have to do better.

If it was good enough for the likes of Abraham, Moses, David, and Paul, it's good enough for me.

And it still didn't give me a working definition of God.

There are plenty of good dictionaries on the Net.

If you can't find a working definition of God in any of them, then I'm afraid I won't be able to help much.

I notice religious folks never do provide such a definition.

If you say so.

 

[TLK Valentine]

In spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?

Does it matter?

Must not be very good fiction then, eh?

Not well written, no... most of the people I know only have one for sentimental value.

Is that why almost every person in America has a copy of Moby Dick on his bookshelf?

Sheeple gonna sheep.

 

[AV1611VET]

Does it matter?

Yes.

Did Al Capone work with respect to the law, or in spite of the law?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes.

Did Al Capone work with respect to the law, or in spite of the law?

Did Jesus?

 

[AV1611VET]

Did Jesus?

Yes.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes.

They execute people for that, you know.

 

[Kylie]

... it would fall victim to:

Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Like they did when the church leaders decided what books to put in and what books to leave out?