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Don't fall for that listen to God thing when NewGuy says it. Because if it disagrees with his beliefs he just points a finger and says you're crazy.

I've heard God, as He wishes all Christians too. And from what I can hear, there's nothing wrong with it.
Oh yeah I forgot you are a prophet.:D

Listen to scripture and it says that homosexuality is a sin.
 
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Oh yeah I forgot you are a prophet.:D

Listen to scripture and it says that homosexuality is a sin.

Not a prophet. I just embrace all that God gives me.

Though, seeing as prophecy is a spiritual gift and we're all given spiritual gifts to be used for God, I don't see how you can say it's a bad thing.

Why listen to something man-made?
 
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We've argued that point over and over again. She doesn't believe that scripture condemns homosexuality nor do I.

Good for you, that's the bible is wrong I can do whatever I want liberal perspective. No one with a brain listens to that.
 
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Good for you, that's the bible is wrong I can do whatever I want liberal perspective. No one with a brain listens to that.

The Bible in the English language successfully encourages polygamy and misogyny as well.
 
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The Bible in the English language successfully encourages polygamy and misogyny as well.
See there goes the liberal misconception again...maybe you can explain these verses to me then...

Mat 19:5

and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 1


1Co 7:27

The one bound to a wife should not seek divorce. The one released from a wife should not seek marriage. 1


Eph 5:31

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be joined to his wife, and the two will become 1 one flesh. 2


1Ti 3:2

The overseer 1 then must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, 2 temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, an able teacher,

1Ti 3:12

Deacons must be husbands of one wife 1 and good managers of their children and their own households.
 
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Good for you, that's the bible is wrong I can do whatever I want liberal perspective. No one with a brain listens to that.
I didn't say that.

I said I don't believe that the Bible condemns homosexuality. Nor does she.
 
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See there goes the liberal misconception again...maybe you can explain these verses to me then...

Mat 19:5

and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 1


1Co 7:27

The one bound to a wife should not seek divorce. The one released from a wife should not seek marriage. 1


Eph 5:31

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be joined to his wife, and the two will become 1 one flesh. 2


1Ti 3:2

The overseer 1 then must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, 2 temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, an able teacher,

1Ti 3:12

Deacons must be husbands of one wife 1 and good managers of their children and their own households.

I believe it's giving an example of whats expected in marriage. Anyone who tries to take that as meaning husband and wife is just trying to dodge the issues as a whole. The Bible isn't a grocery list and I don't hold it as a history book either. It's a flashlight. It's supposed to help guild us, but a flashlight can only do so much.

Also, if you think that's bias, I think the original Bible doesn't encourage either. Just bias translation. But you, believing in a LITERAL Bible, should be all for putting women at a lower level and supporting multiple wives.
 
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I believe it's giving an example of whats expected in marriage. Anyone who tries to take that as meaning husband and wife is just trying to dodge the issues as a whole. The Bible isn't a grocery list and I don't hold it as a history book either. It's a flashlight. It's supposed to help guild us, but a flashlight can only do so much.

Also, if you think that's bias, I think the original Bible doesn't encourage either. Just bias translation. But you, believing in a LITERAL Bible, should be all for putting women at a lower level and supporting multiple wives.
The bible makes it clear that heterosexual monogomous relatinoship is a part of God's design. Also if you disagree with the translation provide evidence that it's wrong. Is this more of your "prophecy" or what?
 
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He didn't say that at all, why must you always twist people's words?
That's his stance, he with all the other liberals push subjectivism along with bible error. I don't even know why you are here commenting since you don't know the history of debates we have had here.
 
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My friend, there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, it's natural.

He's not proud as in "haughty."

He is not ashamed to be who he truly is - and that is a wonderful thing!

Ah, see! The devil is a clever one. See how he temps me?

I believe Christ said it best, "behind me satan"
 
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First of all, Satan does not tempt. Lesser demons do. Unless you're the President or someone of high power. Satan is not omnipresent.

Second of all, that's another roundabout answer. I notice that a lot of answers tend to be "let God save you" or "Satan is just tempting you". There is a lot more to an argument then cute words.
 
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The bible makes it clear that heterosexual monogomous relatinoship is a part of God's design. Also if you disagree with the translation provide evidence that it's wrong. Is this more of your "prophecy" or what?

Why? So you can say it's "just pro-gay propaganda"? I know how you argue too well NewGuy, so I won't waste my time. I will say that the Bible only makes it clear that most people are heterosexual and that heterosexuality is the only way you can MAKE children. Obviously. But like I said. It also only uses "he" and "him" when referring to a group. So by your logic, this means the Bible either only refers to men, or it doesn't consider women worthy for God.

Luckily, I know God is a little more reasonable that.
 
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First of all, Satan does not tempt. Lesser demons do. Unless you're the President or someone of high power. Satan is not omnipresent.

Second of all, that's another roundabout answer. I notice that a lot of answers tend to be "let God save you" or "Satan is just tempting you". There is a lot more to an argument then cute words.

And you know i'm not in power, how? (Why would the devil go after the president? He does'nt even have any power over about 75% of the country.)

I was just grouping them all together anyways.

Secondly I am not trying to be cute. And don't show your true color so easily.

The truth is that God changed me. I praise him for it.
 
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And you know i'm not in power, how? (Why would the devil go after the president? He does'nt even have any power over about 75% of the country.)

I was just grouping them all together anyways.

Secondly I am not trying to be cute. And don't show your true color so easily.

The truth is that God changed me. I praise him for it.

It's different when you're meant to be straight and try to deny that.

I believe I've said this, in the end your sexual desires don't matter. You could be straight but if God has planned for you to marry a man, you're going to succumb to it. I'm considerably lesbian. I'm very attracted to women (though I'd rather not be attracted to anyone) but I have a boyfriend who I have my heart set on marrying. He's the lone male I've ever been attracted too, physically and personality wise.

Surprisingly, I don't feel any guilt when I decide in my head, "She's kinda cute." Shocking. I don't feel any guilt over homosexual attraction. Which is strange, since I feel guilt over the ittiest, bittiest thing otherwise.
 
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And you know i'm not in power, how? (Why would the devil go after the president? He does'nt even have any power over about 75% of the country.)

I was just grouping them all together anyways.

Secondly I am not trying to be cute. And don't show your true color so easily.

The truth is that God changed me. I praise him for it.
Like I said before friend, you didn't change, you either were going through a phase or just denying who you truly are, god bless friend.
 
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