A few notations added to my rapture timing chart

[Douggg]

I added a few notations in red to my anytime rapture view chart, that enhances its clarity.

 

[AlexB23]

I added a few notations in red to my anytime rapture view chart, that enhances its clarity.


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I like this one. Some folks are mid-trib for the rapture though, but anytime is a good compromise to show that the rapture may happen in the beginning, middle or end of the Great Tribulation.


This is my timeline, though it is not as detailed as yours. The AC happens during the Great Tribulation. 20XX represents some future year.

 

[Vambram]

I believe that the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period. However, I am not dogmatic with this belief because I understand that it could possibly be incorrect.

 

[AlexB23]

I believe that the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period. However, I am not dogmatic with this belief because I understand that it could possibly be incorrect.

We will find out when the world ends or when we get to Heaven to meet our Savior Jesus, whichever arrives first.

 

[Vambram]

We will find out when the world ends or when we get to Heaven to meet our Savior Jesus, whichever arrives first.

Amen!!!!

 

[AlexB23]

Amen!!!!

Amen, brother. Hopefully Jesus returns soon, cos this world is getting dark, real quick. People who do not follow Christianity or even Christians who are Preterists may use the excuse "oh, there were a lot more problems back in the Nero era", but based upon what is going on with strange ideologies and great division on all sides, as well as woke stuff invading the churches, we are experiencing a precursor to the Tribulation. Yes, people may live longer in 2024 compared to 70 AD, but there is a lot of immorality and promiscuity. Whether the Great Tribulation happens in 2 years or 2000 years from now, we are getting closer to the end.

 

[Oseas]

I believe that the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period. However, I am not dogmatic with this belief because I understand that it could possibly be incorrect.

It is incorrect, incorrect completely.

 

[Oseas]

Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him, the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. Not so, go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came. They that were ready went in with Him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Meanwhile, all the fools were selling(Pastors, Bishops, Evangelists, among others) and buying oil, terrible, very terrible, and they cried: Lord, Lord, open the door to us. They lost their souls for ever and ever. Never will be another opportunity of salvation, for the sellers and for the buyers of oil, no, never more.

Get ready, now the time is of a ROD of iron

Revelation 2:26-29
26 He that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the END(1Corinthians 15:24-26), to him will I give power over the NATIONS:-->Revelation 11:15-18
27 And he shall RULE them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.
29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Get ready

 

[AlexB23]

It is incorrect, incorrect completely.

My brother, it does not matter if we are correct about the rapture timing. You could have gone about your reply to Vambram in a different way, instead of saying it is "incorrect completely". Please do not call my friend Vambram's response "incorrect completely".

A better response would be offering a different opinion in a more polite manner, such as saying "I believe that the rapture happens after the Tribulation, but hey, we all have different views on the End Times".

We will only truly know when all this stuff happens when the End Times sequence of events begin in full-force, or when we pass away into Heaven.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Amen, brother. Hopefully Jesus returns soon, cos this world is getting dark, real quick. People who do not follow Christianity or even Christians who are Preterists may use the excuse "oh, there were a lot more problems back in the Nero era", but based upon what is going on with strange ideologies and great division on all sides, as well as woke stuff invading the churches, we are experiencing a precursor to the Tribulation. Yes, people may live longer in 2024 compared to 70 AD, but there is a lot of immorality and promiscuity. Whether the Great Tribulation happens in 2 years or 2000 years from now, we are getting closer to the end.

I thought those who believe in pre-trib believe that the rapture is imminent and there aren't any signs which precede it? You clearly believe that there are signs that precede the supposed pre-trib rapture. How can the rapture be imminent, as pre-tribs typically claim, if there are certain things that have to happen first before it happens, as you believe?

It seems that you agree with what Paul taught in 2 Thess 2:1-3 which is that a mass falling away from the faith has to happen first before the rapture? Pre-tribs don't typically agree with that because that does not indicate a pre-trib rapture since it instead indicates that the tribulation has begun at that point when the falling away begins to happen.

I think pre-tribs miss that the tribulation before Christ's return is spiritual tribulation and it appears that you recognize that it has already started. Jesus also taught that there would be spiritual tribulation just before His coming when the rapture occurs (Matthew 24:23-31).

 

[AlexB23]

I thought those who believe in pre-trib believe that the rapture is imminent and there aren't any signs which precede it? You clearly believe that there are signs that precede the supposed pre-trib rapture. How can the rapture be imminent, as pre-tribs typically claim, if there are certain things that have to happen first before it happens, as you believe?

It seems that you agree with what Paul taught in 2 Thess 2:1-3 which is that a mass falling away from the faith has to happen first before the rapture? Pre-tribs don't typically agree with that because that does not indicate a pre-trib rapture since it instead indicates that the tribulation has begun at that point when the falling away begins to happen.

I think pre-tribs miss that the tribulation before Christ's return is spiritual tribulation and it appears that you recognize that it has already started. Jesus also taught that there would be spiritual tribulation just before His coming when the rapture occurs (Matthew 24:23-31).

I am a mid-trib, though the rapture could happen in the start or end also. What I am saying is that the end times are getting near.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

I am a mid-trib, though the rapture could happen in the start or end also. What I am saying is that the end times are getting near.

So, you believe in signs that have to occur before the rapture, unlike pre-tribs. But, the end times are not getting near, we are in the end times now.

When you say "the end times" what do you mean exactly? What do you consider to be "the end times"? Scripture indicates that the end times began long ago already, so you must be referring to a different "end times" than these verses do:

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Acts 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

 

[AlexB23]

So, you believe in signs that have to occur before the rapture, unlike pre-tribs. But, the end times are not getting near, we are in the end times now.

When you say "the end times" what do you mean exactly? What do you consider to be "the end times"? Scripture indicates that the end times began long ago already, so you must be referring to a different "end times" than these verses do:

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Acts 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Look at my timeline again. The End Times began in the first century, but will keep on getting worse until the future. Yes, there are many antichrists nowadays. So yes, I believe in signs before the Great Tribulation.

 

[Oseas]

My brother, it does not matter if we are correct about the rapture timing. You could have gone about your reply to Vambram in a different way, instead of saying it is "incorrect completely". Please do not call my friend Vambram's response "incorrect completely".

A better response would be offering a different opinion in a more polite manner, such as saying "I believe that the rapture happens after the Tribulation, but hey, we all have different views on the End Times".

We will only truly know when all this stuff happens when the End Times sequence of events begin in full-force, or when we pass away into Heaven.

I think you misunderstood my post.
Vambram said "it could possibly be incorrect" the theory "the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period". So, what I meant and emphasize to the friend Vambram in my reply is that the theory ""the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period"" it is incorrect completely.

In fact, that theory is wrong completely, all will see this very soon, as soon as be elected the next and last Pope, and manifestation of the MAN Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11- he had two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, a false messiah(John 5:43-47), and he speaks as dragon. The last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27 will LITERALLY be fulfiled with the manifestation of the MAN of sin, son of perdition, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders-2Thessalonians 2:3-12.

Get ready

 

[AlexB23]

I think you misunderstood my post.
Vambram said "it could possibly be incorrect" the theory "the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period". So, what I meant and emphasize to the friend Vambram in my reply is that the theory ""the Rapture shall happen before the 7 year Tribulation period"" it is incorrect completely.

In fact, that theory is wrong completely, all will see this very soon, as soon as be elected the next and last Pope, and manifestation of the MAN Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11- he had two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, a false messiah(John 5:43-47), and he speaks as dragon. The last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27 will LITERALLY be fulfiled with the manifestation of the MAN of sin, son of perdition, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders-2Thessalonians 2:3-12.

Get ready

So the Pope after Francis dies will be the AC? As a Catholic, I actually do not listen to the Pope, cos I place Jesus above any human. Fellow Catholics may not like what I have to say, but the Papal infallibility ruling of 1870 sounds awful.

I like Doug's interpretation, as the rapture could happen in the beginning, middle or end of the tribulation. End Times stuff is my weakness, as Revelation is the most confusing part of the Bible.

 

[Marilyn C]

`Blow a trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; for the Day of the Lord is coming, for it is at hand.

A Day of darkness and gloominess, a Day of clouds and thick darkness, like the morning clouds spread over the mountains, a people come great and strong, the like of whom has never been; nor will there ever be any such after them, even for many successive generations.` (Joel 2: 1 & 2)

 

[Oseas]

So the Pope after Francis dies will be the AC? As a Catholic, I actually do not listen to the Pope, cos I place Jesus above any human. Fellow Catholics may not like what I have to say, but the Papal infallibility ruling of 1870 sounds awful.

JESUS made it very clear, saying: Matthew 15:13-14
13 - Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.(The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?)
14 - Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

The cradle of antichrist was/is the Church itself-1John 2:18-21- see how:

The Antichrist was born and rose up from the own Church-See how

Yes, the birthplace, or the cradle of Antichrist, was the own Church, unfortunately, see how. 1 John 2:v.18-19 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that...

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I like Doug's interpretation, as the rapture could happen in the beginning, middle or end of the tribulation. End Times stuff is my weakness, as Revelation is the most confusing part of the Bible.

What does the Word of GOD say? 1John 5:9->9 If we receive the witness of men(countless witness of men are even ridiculous), the witness of GOD is greater.

And our Lord JESUS said: Matthew 12:36-37:
36 Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. (this Day arrived, that is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium)

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Be careful

 

[Oseas]

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`Blow a trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; for the Day of the Lord is coming, for it is at hand.

A Day of darkness and gloominess, a Day of clouds and thick darkness, like the morning clouds spread over the mountains, a people come great and strong, the like of whom has never been; nor will there ever be any such after them, even for many successive generations.` (Joel 2: 1 & 2)

The Lord's Day arrived, that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, and the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27will start as soon be elected the next and last Pope(this satanic event will not delay), and also be manifested the Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11.

If the Trumpet give an uncertain sound(Revelation 11:15-18), who shall prepare himself to the battle?

Be careful or else get ready

 

[Marilyn C]

The Lord's Day arrived, that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, and the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:24-27will start as soon be elected the next and last Pope(this satanic event will not delay), and also be manifested the Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11.

If the Trumpet give an uncertain sound(Revelation 11:15-18), who shall prepare himself to the battle?

Be careful or else get ready

I do like those songs, thank you. However. Pope? Political leader of the world? I do think the rising swell of Islam will have something to say about that.

 

[AlexB23]

JESUS made it very clear, saying: Matthew 15:13-14
13 - Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.(The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?)
14 - Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

The cradle of antichrist was/is the Church itself-1John 2:18-21- see how:

The Antichrist was born and rose up from the own Church-See how

Yes, the birthplace, or the cradle of Antichrist, was the own Church, unfortunately, see how. 1 John 2:v.18-19 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that...

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What does the Word of GOD say? 1John 5:9->9 If we receive the witness of men(countless witness of men are even ridiculous), the witness of GOD is greater.

And our Lord JESUS said: Matthew 12:36-37:
36 Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. (this Day arrived, that is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium)

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Be careful

I will be careful. If the Pope goes woke or we get a bad future Pope, I will run away from the Catholic church. What are your thoughts on Orthodox churches?