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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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Caliban
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Isaiah said that his name would be Immanuel not Jesus/YahShua...
PS not questioning the validity of Jesus as Christ, just confused that he wasn't named Immanuel?!?! Did Isaiah get the name wrong?!?
PS not questioning the validity of Jesus as Christ, just confused that he wasn't named Immanuel?!?! Did Isaiah get the name wrong?!?
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Borealis
Catholic Homeschool Dad
'Immanuel' means 'God is with us.' It's much like the Archangel Raphael using a different name in Tobit; he calls himself 'Azariah,' which means 'God helps.'
The names aren't literal; they are symbolic of the person they represent. Besides, if Isaiah had explicitly prophesied 'Jesus' as the Messiah's name, how many would-be Messiahs would there have been?
The names aren't literal; they are symbolic of the person they represent. Besides, if Isaiah had explicitly prophesied 'Jesus' as the Messiah's name, how many would-be Messiahs would there have been?
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JRP
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The Greek word "onoma" (name) is used literally of proper names and figuratively of title, authority, attributes, or character traits - as is the Hebrew word "shem" (name). Matthew's use of Immanuel is akin to those designations ascribed to the messiah in Isaiah 9:6.
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
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