A&E is intolerant...

[Saleena]

I view the entertainment industry with 'reality tv' in a completely different light than running a restaurant. In my view, reality style tv is supposed to show the lifestyles of others, often portraying aspects many people would avoid in their own life, and I feel their political or moral views should be included.

In that sense I agree, I mean if you are doing a show about someone like a documentary of a klans member, you aren't going to stifle them and tell them they can't say what they are saying. If anything this is just gonna show the backwards thinking of people like that and help educate people, like maybe hey we shouldn't act like hicks like this guy. He's a joke, like honey boo boo is, the people like that who think like that are fast becoming this train wreck which is important to see. Although on the other hand, this is not a documentary and a actual show. So it's not a one time deal.

 

[Yoseft]

'Duck Dynasty' star suspended for anti-gay comments | Inside TV | EW.com

Tolerance: you're doing it wrong.

Tolerance doesn't just mean you tolerate comments and beliefs that you agree with.

I hope Duck Dynasty leaves A&E for better ground.

With all respect to all, with humility, it is the world void of HIM.

It is what the Beautiful Word of the Most High in
1st John guides us in.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.
If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Hard verse, and I did not write it.

I am not above all the fray. Trust me.

My 1st human impulse was to email A&E and chastise them.

But we are in the times of the end, the times
of evil is called good, and good is called evil.

If you are upset, Bless You, that you might be
on the narrow path.

If you defend the other side, May He have His way
in your heart to change you to His Word, and Image.

Shalom
Yosef

 

[Marius27]

I wish I was gay

No you don't. People would tell you you're an abomination everyday.

 

[Marius27]

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[Marius27]

Do all people sin? Yes. Does God say "Well, lying isn't quite as bad as stealing, which isn't quite as bad as murder..." No. He makes no distinction about one sin being worse than another. All sin is repugnant in His perfect sight. We as humans are guilty of moral equivalence, not God.

If all sins were equal, you'd be bound by all 613 Biblical laws and they would have never changed.

 

[Metal Minister]

If all sins were equal, you'd be bound by all 613 Biblical laws and they would have never changed.

No. Jesus' sacrifice changed that. We are no longer bound by the old covenant law. However this is a discussion for another thread.

 

[Belk]

I wish I was gay

Meh. The good times are offset by the long boring "BRING ALL OF SOCIETY TO IT'S KNEES!!!!" meetings filled up with the minutia. They do have delicious baked goods and martinis, though.

 

[Saleena]

Meh. The good times are offset by the long boring "BRING ALL OF SOCIETY TO IT'S KNEES!!!!" meetings filled up with the minutia. They do have delicious baked goods and martinis, though.

Oh gods, the whining about how everyone is saying things they shouldn't on tv. It's so consuming for the community, it's like hey let's forget that we should be fighting for our rights, some actor in russia said we should be cooked in ovens! What happened to the childhood, ignore mean people?

 

[Cearbhall]

Meh. The good times are offset by the long boring "BRING ALL OF SOCIETY TO IT'S KNEES!!!!" meetings filled up with the minutia. They do have delicious baked goods and martinis, though.

Especially the rainbow cakes. Everything tastes better in rainbow.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Do all people sin? Yes. Does God say "Well, lying isn't quite as bad as stealing, which isn't quite as bad as murder..." No. He makes no distinction about one sin being worse than another. All sin is repugnant in His perfect sight. We as humans are guilty of moral equivalence, not God.

Exactly. So why would Phil have to go on and on about homosexuality if all sins carry the same weight? He could have just talked about his personal beliefs on the subject but instead he chose to vilify and disparage homosexuals specifically. Whether he realized it or not, he was personally attacking the gay community.

 

[katherine2001]

Assimilation to what, exactly? Best I can tell, the worst thing that will happen to this guy (whoever he is) is he won't be on TV any more.

-- A2SG, okay, for some, that's akin to consignment to hell, but, y'know....

He'll probably end up with his own show on Fox News. By the way, how come all of you weren't complaining that Martin Bashir lost his show on MSNBC because of his comments on Sarah Palin? Shouldn't he have a right to say whatever he wants without getting fired?

 

[katherine2001]

More poutrage from the left. A Christian man gives his opinion on homosexuality, the left is up in arms and screamin for blood, Martin Bashir says he'd like to defecate in Sarah Palin's mouth....crickets.....

Networks Denounce 'Outrageous' 'Duck Dynasty' Star, But Skipped Bashir's Vile Attack | NewsBusters

Martin Bashir got fired. So it is not true that there was no reaction or consequences.

 

[mpok1519]

Do all people sin? Yes. Does God say "Well, lying isn't quite as bad as stealing, which isn't quite as bad as murder..." No. He makes no distinction about one sin being worse than another. All sin is repugnant in His perfect sight. We as humans are guilty of moral equivalence, not God.

Sure. Whatever you say. However, he could have expressed himself without sounding like a bigot, basically comparing all humanity to people who have sex with animals.

If I at a company picnic make a speech about how negatively I feel about any demographic of peolple(gay, straight, black, white, christians, Jews, etc), I'm an idiot if I don't expect negative repercussions.

For all intensive purposes, the bible calls for the death of homosexuals. If one ever make public that they agree with this, and I'm the boss, I would definitely fire them because they're a risk and a potential hazard, creating hostility in the work place that is just not needed.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Here is a link the the GQ article: Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour

It may be worth noting that he did not makes his statements in response to a question specifically about homosexuality, but in response to a question about sin in general. It was he himself who chose to name homosexuality as his prime example, from which he suggested one could "morph out" into the other sins he names. It is as if he finds homosexuality to be somehow an archetypal sin from which others can be derived by making adaptations to the original. Then again, he might have had no clear idea what he meant.

He also managed, in this interview, to point out how much happier, godlier, and less complaining black people were under Jim Crow in the South, and to lump Islam, Shinto, Communism and Nazism together as being particularly murderous due to not having Jesus. I think he managed to insult well more than a few percent of the public.

 

[Metal Minister]

Sure. Whatever you say. However, he could har expressed himself without sounding like a bigot, basically comparing all humanity to people who have sex with animals.

Pretty sure I've said that a couple of times now.

For all intensive purposes, the bible calls for the death of homosexuals. If one ever make public that they agree with this, and I'm the boss, I would definitely fire them because they're a risk and a potential hazard, creating hostility in the work place that is just not needed.

No, the bible no longer calls for the death of homosexuals. Jesus's death ended that. (There's a great deal I could show about this, but that's for another thread.)

As an aside, I switched on the telly, and Lo and behold, but A&E is showing Phil Robertson proudly in reruns of DD shows. Guess they weren't offended enough to let it hurt their wallets too much....

 

[Belk]

Especially the rainbow cakes. Everything tastes better in rainbow.

With skittles on top.

 

[MrLuther]

They're not intolerant. They're a business and they don't want to lose any viewers over the rantings of an over-payed hillbilly.

So, you would not have a problem with a business that fired a gay activist for speaking his mind, right?
Or is that somehow TOTALLY DIFFERENT, because Christians don't have sympathetic sit-com characters to act as PR-agents?

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Pretty sure I've said that a couple of times now.

No, the bible no longer calls for the death of homosexuals. Jesus's death ended that. (There's a great deal I could show about this, but that's for another thread.)

As an aside, I switched on the telly, and Lo and behold, but A&E is showing Phil Robertson proudly in reruns of DD shows. Guess they weren't offended enough to let it hurt their wallets too much....

Apparently not! What hypocrites. Phil Robertson didn't write the good Book, he just quoted it. And now I will quote what he quoted.

“Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)

AND I will add this...

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20)

I'm not ashamed to quote Scripture or to testify, in public, of not only the love of God, but also of His righteousness, holiness, and justice. I'm not afraid or ashamed to talk about God's wrath against all sin on the Day of Judgment or that people who die without their sins being forgiven in Christ will go to hell. I have talked about these things before and I will continue to do so with my last dying breath. I fully commend and stand by Phil Robertson for his bold witness for Christ. I'm thankful to God that Phil has such a strong faith that enabled him to stand up and tell the rock solid biblical truth about homosexuality being a sin. It is a sin. As a Christian myself, I do not, under any circumstances, condone or support the homosexual lifestyle. I will not and I cannot because I am a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ AND I wholeheartedly believe the Scriptures to be the infallible and inerrant words of God Almighty. In other words, I would be an outright liar to call myself and proclaim myself to be a true, genuine Christian if I supported and condoned homosexuality (or any other kind of sinful action and/or behaviors). I will not compromise my faith or my Christian beliefs to appease other people, no matter who they are. And I certainly will not sacrifice my faith and my Christian beliefs on the altars of political correctness and tolerance. And with said, I reiterate that I stand with Phil Robertson, I fully support him, and I strongly commend him for his strong Christian beliefs and his boldness to speak them. Before I close, here is a powerful message I wanted to share with you. It was posted on the Stop Playing Church Facebook page.

Phil Robertson, the star of a A&E’s hit TV series quoted the Bible recently when talking about homosexuality. It stirred up the censorship police (A&E suspended him for stating what he believed), and it sure brought the verse to the public’s attention. That’s good news. Here is the passage:

“Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

Homosexuals were deeply offended, and no wonder. The Scriptures clearly say that they are not going to make it to Heaven. However, it also says that fornicators (those who have had premarital sex), idolaters (those who make up false gods to suit themselves), adulterers, thieves, and the others mentioned in the list won’t make it either. So all these folks should be just as offended as homosexuals.

But it gets worse. Jesus said that if we as much as lust, we commit adultery in our hearts (see Matthew 5:27-28), and who of us isn’t guilty of that? So the rest of humanity should be deeply offended by the message of Christianity…and they are. Despite this, God means what He says about Hell. He will have His Day of absolute justice, despite the offense.

As Christians, we care enough to warn about Hell’s reality, and we care enough to tell this sinful world that God is rich in mercy, willing to forgive and grant everlasting life to all who repent of sin and trust alone in Jesus. See www.needGod.com for details.

- Ray Comfort

 

[MrLuther]

For all intensive purposes,

Way to abuse your own language. Even I, a non-native speaker, knows better than this.

the bible calls for the death of homosexuals.

Yes, in the context of when it was written and to whom. It does not command Christians to go out and kills homophiles, and no one will say it does.

If one ever make public that they agree with this, and I'm the boss, I would definitely fire them because they're a risk and a potential hazard, creating hostility in the work place that is just not needed.

If they said: "Yeah, I think gays should be killed", then that would be a sound call.
If they merely say: "I agree with the bible on the question of homophilia", then you SHOULD be in for a wrongful termination-suit (but you would then probably just buy a sympathetic judge, and win anyway), because that doesn't mean they think that homophiles should be killed, but that they think it's immoral.
At least until and unless they say the first.

 

[MrLuther]

This is the very reason why laws restricting speech are usually castigated - defenders of free speech point out that the proper response to idiotic speech is others getting up and expressing the idea that the original speaker was wrong. And that is exactly what A&E has done. It just so happens that their ability to express themselves is far greater than Mr. Robertson's.

So you would be totally ok with a company firing a gay activist for his activities?