A Different Perspective

[HRE]

This is not my own writing, but I think it does a good job of making a point:
I have nothing against religious people. Hey, some of my best friends are religious. It's nobody's business what sort of ignorant, superstitious rituals they perform in their own homes and churches. No one should care what sort of bizarre mythical creatures they worship, or what kind of "holy" objects (statues, icons, and / or books) they revere.

Of course these religious people do need to show some restraint in public. I'll give you an example: I was at a nice restaurant with my wife the other night. There were these two guys at a table next to us. They looked fairly normal, but I thought by the way they dressed, and the way they styled their hair that they were "that way". So I kept my eye on them. Sure enough, as soon as their meals came they started praying right there at a table not ten feet away from us. How were we supposed to eat with that going on? Don't those people have special clubs or something where they can go?

What I really hate is the way they influence the media. I'm not talking about the ones with their own shows. I can spot those a mile away, and avoid them. I'm talking about the ones who sneak their insane agenda into supposedly factual news stories.


But I digress. My point is that we shouldn't hate these people, but pity them. We should try to help them see past their delusions when we can. When we can't help them, we should just leave them alone...unless they run for public office, or want to teach in a public school or...

By James Huber

Thoughts?

 

[Matthew777]

Sure enough, as soon as their meals came they started praying right there at a table not ten feet away from us. How were we supposed to eat with that going on? Don't those people have special clubs or something where they can go?

There is no reason to feel ashamed of thanking the one who blesses us with food.

What I really hate is the way they influence the media.

What I hate is the clear anti-religious bias of the liberal media. Just turn on another sex-saturated sit-com or news story on conservative Christians.

But I digress. My point is that we shouldn't hate these people, but pity them. We should try to help them see past their delusions when we can. When we can't help them, we should just leave them alone...unless they run for public office, or want to teach in a public school or...

We shouldn't hate atheists but pity them for being on the road to hell.
We should try to help them see past their own stubbornness and accept the atoning blood of the Lord. When we can't help them, we should just let God sort them out...unless they run for public office or want to teach in a public school.

 

[psychedelicist]

This is not my own writing, but I think it does a good job of making a point:
I have nothing against religious people. Hey, some of my best friends are religious. It's nobody's business what sort of ignorant, superstitious rituals they perform in their own homes and churches. No one should care what sort of bizarre mythical creatures they worship, or what kind of "holy" objects (statues, icons, and / or books) they revere.

Of course these religious people do need to show some restraint in public. I'll give you an example: I was at a nice restaurant with my wife the other night. There were these two guys at a table next to us. They looked fairly normal, but I thought by the way they dressed, and the way they styled their hair that they were "that way". So I kept my eye on them. Sure enough, as soon as their meals came they started praying right there at a table not ten feet away from us. How were we supposed to eat with that going on? Don't those people have special clubs or something where they can go?

What I really hate is the way they influence the media. I'm not talking about the ones with their own shows. I can spot those a mile away, and avoid them. I'm talking about the ones who sneak their insane agenda into supposedly factual news stories.


But I digress. My point is that we shouldn't hate these people, but pity them. We should try to help them see past their delusions when we can. When we can't help them, we should just leave them alone...unless they run for public office, or want to teach in a public school or...

By James Huber

Thoughts?

I"m gonna agree with most of what matthew said, except for that part about liberals. It's none of anyone's business if someone wants to pray in public.

And I opt to leave them alone rather than pity them, or try and "help" them by converting them, the very thing atheists get so ticked off about. But I say, let them run for office or teach. As long as they are capable, and don't try and convert the schoolchildren or anything, I say let them go for it.

 

[Matthew777]

I am liberal on certain issues but not when it comes to the preferred bias of the media. The FCC should start cracking down on the promotion of pre-marital sex and drug/alcohol use in shows that young people watch.

 

[Alecto]

What I hate is the clear anti-religious bias of the liberal media.

Dude you made me laugh and spray soda all over the screen! Anti-religious bias? In what world? If you mean anti-religious nutcase bias, then Ill give you that, but I fail to see anything beyond that

We shouldn't hate atheists but pity them for being on the road to hell.
We should try to help them see past their own stubbornness and accept the atoning blood of the Lord.

Oh yes, we cant just accept the fact that some people think differently and be done with it now can we?

Of course these religious people do need to show some restraint in public. I'll give you an example: I was at a nice restaurant with my wife the other night. There were these two guys at a table next to us. They looked fairly normal, but I thought by the way they dressed, and the way they styled their hair that they were "that way". So I kept my eye on them. Sure enough, as soon as their meals came they started praying right there at a table not ten feet away from us. How were we supposed to eat with that going on? Don't those people have special clubs or something where they can go?

I think the author has some issues he needs to work out. He sounds like he has SERIOUS issues with religion. I fail to see how someone praying for a few moments would disturb his meal.

I have nothing against religious people. Hey, some of my best friends are religious. It's nobody's business what sort of ignorant, superstitious rituals they perform in their own homes and churches. No one should care what sort of bizarre mythical creatures they worship, or what kind of "holy" objects (statues, icons, and / or books) they revere.

Again, this is a bit harsh and it indicated that the author has some REAL problems with religion and isnt dealing with them in the best way, with open hostility.

But I digress. My point is that we shouldn't hate these people, but pity them. We should try to help them see past their delusions when we can. When we can't help them, we should just leave them alone...unless they run for public office, or want to teach in a public school or...

See previous statement

 

[Alecto]

I am liberal on certain issues but not when it comes to the prefered bias in the media. The FCC should start cracking down on the promotion of pre-marital sex and drug/alcohol use in shows that young people watch.

Therein lies the problem, as I dont see the portrayal of sex and drugs in the media as a problem. To me, its our sociey, thats the way it is and if you arent happy with it, dont screw it up for people who are.

 

[psychedelicist]

I am liberal on certain issues but not when it comes to the prefered bias in the media. The FCC should start cracking down on the promotion of pre-marital sex and drug/alcohol use in shows that young people watch.

Actually, the FDA pays quite large sums of money to many TV shows to include anti-drug messages in their shows. The only shows I've seen recently that promote pre marital sex and drugs is That 70's Show and the OC (and it sucks anyways so I doubt people will listen to it). It's mostly the movie industry that's promoting this stuff.

 

[Matthew777]

Therein lies the problem, as I dont see the portrayal of sex and drugs in the media as a problem. To me, its our sociey, thats the way it is and if you arent happy with it, dont screw it up for people who are.

Is it merely a reflection of society or a cause of society's problems?

 

[Alecto]

Is it merely a reflection of society or a cause of society's problems?

Its very easy to blame something like "the media" for social problems. And Im sure they do cause some complications, but I think its a huge cop-out to blame the media for problems in society.

Its far more likely that the media is a reflection of society because people wouldnt consume what the media puts out if they werent open to it to begin with.

Americans are funky people, I dont think there are people quite like them anywhere else. If thats good or bad, I couldnt say.

Americans are a HUGE contradiction. On one hand, a huge part of our society are "For the moment" type of people who live for the moment and who desire pleasure and entertainment. Yet theres this other part of society who is very conservative and unwilling to test the boundaries and considers the other parts of society to be vulgar and criminal. Then there are the people who really dont fall into any category and are a strange mix of both. I dont think youll find that in any other country on Earth. As I said, Im not sure if thats a good or bad thing, but I think we can all appreciate that its THERE

 

[Clarity1]

I see the point was clearly missed here too.

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[Matthew777]

I see the point was clearly missed here too.

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If the point was to spew idiotic anti-Christian comments then
it hasn't been missed at all.

 

[ebia]

If the point was to spew idiotic anti-Christian comments then
it hasn't been missed at all.

The OP is blantant parody. And quite well done, I thought.

 

[Fuzzy]

If the point was to spew idiotic anti-Christian comments then
it hasn't been missed at all.

How about the point was to show lines of thought by biased people, substituting religion for other things such as race, nationality, gender, or sexual identity?

 

[McCracAttack]

If the point was to spew idiotic anti-Christian comments then
it hasn't been missed at all.

How interesting that you would infer that since the OP doesn't mention Christianity at all. It could easily apply to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, ect. The last two paragraphs even begin to sound like some opinions I’ve heard about homosexuality.The writer wasn’t serious but was instead trying to be satirical. Judging by the indignation you’ve reacted with I wonder if you’ll start to understand how other groups feel about being regarded this way. That was the whole point after all.

 

[Zaac]

This is not my own writing, but I think it does a good job of making a point:
I have nothing against religious people. Hey, some of my best friends are religious. It's nobody's business what sort of ignorant, superstitious rituals they perform in their own homes and churches. No one should care what sort of bizarre mythical creatures they worship, or what kind of "holy" objects (statues, icons, and / or books) they revere.

Of course these religious people do need to show some restraint in public. I'll give you an example: I was at a nice restaurant with my wife the other night. There were these two guys at a table next to us. They looked fairly normal, but I thought by the way they dressed, and the way they styled their hair that they were "that way". So I kept my eye on them. Sure enough, as soon as their meals came they started praying right there at a table not ten feet away from us. How were we supposed to eat with that going on? Don't those people have special clubs or something where they can go?

What I really hate is the way they influence the media. I'm not talking about the ones with their own shows. I can spot those a mile away, and avoid them. I'm talking about the ones who sneak their insane agenda into supposedly factual news stories.


But I digress. My point is that we shouldn't hate these people, but pity them. We should try to help them see past their delusions when we can. When we can't help them, we should just leave them alone...unless they run for public office, or want to teach in a public school or...

By James Huber

Thoughts?

So was his point to juxtapose Christianity with the committing of homosexual acts and all the other sins of the world, and in so doing, assumably show just how interchangeable Christianity is to the others?

Frankly, Huber needs to be very careful about trying to make the "Christian" agenda no different than the illusioned gay agenda.

There is a SIN agenda.

The world does not have to like Christianity. In fact, we expect this world's flesh driven normality to be at odds with everything about Christ.

 

[Zaac]

How interesting that you would infer that since the OP doesn't mention Christianity at all. It could easily apply to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, ect. The last two paragraphs even begin to sound like some opinions I’ve heard about homosexuality.

Oh stop the silliness. A third grade child knows what the inference is.

The writer wasn’t serious but was instead trying to be satirical. Judging by the indignation you’ve reacted with I wonder if you’ll start to understand how other groups feel about being regarded this way. That was the whole point after all.

And therein lies the point in the OP's post of Huger's article. The entire reason Huger wrote the piece was to satirize the way he believes "those religous people" treat homosexuals and homosexuality.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

So was his point to juxtapose Christianity with the committing of homosexual acts and all the other sins of the world, and in so doing, assumably show just how interchangeable Christianity is to the others?

Frankly, Huber needs to be very careful about trying to make the "Christian" agenda no different than the illusioned gay agenda.

There is a SIN agenda.

The world does not have to like Christianity. In fact, we expect this world's flesh driven normality to be at odds with everything about Christ.

You're only going to make it hurt worse or hurt someone else if you resist Zaac. Just relax and let it take you gently. That way, all those involved will 'progress' past this and get on to other, more important issues - like how to have maximum sexual fulfillment without any of those nasty repercussions.

You will comply.
(I prefer sarcasm over satire, not as much effort in conveying the point - which you did nicely, but without the sarcasm, Zaac. )

 

[Zaac]

You're only going to make it hurt worse or hurt someone else if you resist Zaac. Just relax and let it take you gently. That way, all those involved will 'progress' past this and get on to other, more important issues - like how to have maximum sexual fulfillment without any of those nasty repercussions.

You will comply.
(I prefer sarcasm over satire, not as much effort in conveying the point - which you did nicely, but without the sarcasm, Zaac. )

CC, it's too early for you to be making me laugh.

I just keep wondering why every so many days someone comes up here with this same brand of satire to point out to us awful Christians just how unfair we are being to those wonderful committers of homosexual acts.

Geesh folks need to give it a rest and realize that God has never said anything about His desire to treat rebellious sinners fairly, nor has He called for the saints to be "fair" in their objection to rebellious sin.

As a result, this interchanging stuff to make a point about Christianity is irrelevant to those of us who are rooted firmly in the foundation that is the Word of God---Jesus Christ---and who frankly are not concerned with the committers of homosexual acts thinking that they are being treated differently from those who are aligned with God's Word.

You ARE. You are being dealt with just as God's Word says to.

You're having your sin pointed out to you. 18 When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for [a] his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 19 But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself. Ezekiel 3:18

God's Word is being used to correct and teach. “All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17

And you are being judged righteously, not hypocritically. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. Matthew 7:3-5

And the man of God judges ALL things. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment: For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.” 1 Cor 2:15-16

SO again to all of these comments intended to point out Christian treatment of homosexual offenders. We love you just as we are commanded. But we WILL not encourage you in your outright rebellious sin against a HOLY GOD.

 

[John812]

I have nothing against religious people. Hey, some of my best friends are religious. It's nobody's business what sort of ignorant, superstitious rituals they perform in their own homes and churches. No one should care what sort of bizarre mythical creatures they worship, or what kind of "holy" objects (statues, icons, and / or books) they revere.

Of course these religious people do need to show some restraint in public. I'll give you an example: I was at a nice restaurant with my wife the other night. There were these two guys at a table next to us. They looked fairly normal, but I thought by the way they dressed, and the way they styled their hair that they were "that way". So I kept my eye on them. Sure enough, as soon as their meals came they started praying right there at a table not ten feet away from us. How were we supposed to eat with that going on? Don't those people have special clubs or something where they can go?

What I really hate is the way they influence the media. I'm not talking about the ones with their own shows. I can spot those a mile away, and avoid them. I'm talking about the ones who sneak their insane agenda into supposedly factual news stories.


But I digress. My point is that we shouldn't hate these people, but pity them. We should try to help them see past their delusions when we can. When we can't help them, we should just leave them alone...unless they run for public office, or want to teach in a public school or...

I wonder what these "best-friends" of his would say if they read what he wrote here, especially the parts I've made bold. He's definetly got a lot of hate for religion, and perhaps for religious people themselves, even though he says we shouldn't hate them. I get the impression he does.


God Bless ya!

 

[HRE]

And the rest:

The preceding was a satire of the way people, even some liberals, talk about alternative lifestyles, especially homosexuality. Did it hurt? make you angry? Now do you understand why "those people" get upset when you think you're being perfectly reasonable?

Ebia gets the cookie.

The rest of the responses are rather interesting, don't you think?