A Depraved Mind

[Zaac]

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Romans 1:28-32


It's obvious that sometimes God just gives some over to a depraved mind and allows them to believe that which isn't true. That's why so many are believing the devil's lie that homosexual sex is not a sin.

 

[b&wpac4]

It's obvious that sometimes God just gives some over to a depraved mind and allows them to believe that which isn't true.

Quite obvious indeed.

 

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Quite obvious indeed.

*snap*

 

[b&wpac4]

*snap*

What?

 

[LightHorseman]

28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Romans 1:28-32


It's obvious that sometimes God just gives some over to a depraved mind and allows them to believe that which isn't true. That's why so many are believing the devil's lie that homosexual sex is not a sin.

Or maybe why so many believe that it IS a sin. Oops, your argument works both ways. Guess we'd better go looking for OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE and maybe even LOGIC to make moral decisions huh?

 

[lawtonfogle]

Or maybe why so many believe that it IS a sin. Oops, your argument works both ways. Guess we'd better go looking for OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE and maybe even LOGIC to make moral decisions huh?

But you can't apply logic to the Bible.

 

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What?

Complimenting your post.

Could have said 'burn' or 'scorch'.

 

[b&wpac4]

Complimenting your post.

Could have said 'burn' or 'scorch'.

Had I wished to be sarcastic and insulting, I would have left little doubt to my intentions. What I quoted is true, apply it however you would like.

 

[PhilosophicalBluster]

What, too tired for subtlety, Zaac?

 

[The Nihilist]

More like too tired for not being stupid.

 

[PhilosophicalBluster]

More like too tired for not being stupid.

Oh snap!

 

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Had I wished to be sarcastic and insulting, I would have left little doubt to my intentions. What I quoted is true, apply it however you would like.

My bad for assuming an agnostic would not believe either in sin in a biblical sense, or that homosexual sex was one.

For an Agnostic to assert to be true any action of a God one claims to be unsure even exists, is mystifying.

Interesting dude, you must be.

I rescind my snap, burn and scorch.

Be well.

 

[Zaac]

What, too tired for subtlety, Zaac?

No need to be subtle when I can just as well say what I mean.

 

[yguy]

Or maybe why so many believe that it IS a sin. Oops, your argument works both ways. Guess we'd better go looking for OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE

Anyone who hasn't been swindled out of part of his ability to see the obvious has that, because it's self-evidently wrong.

and maybe even LOGIC to make moral decisions huh?

What exactly is a "moral decision" in this context?

 

[PhilosophicalBluster]

Actually yes, there is need to be subtle. It helps people take you seriously. This is evident because nobody so far in this thread seems to have taken you seriously.

 

[b&wpac4]

My bad for assuming an agnostic would not believe either in sin in a biblical sense, or that homosexual sex was one.

For an Agnostic to assert to be true any action of a God one claims to be unsure even exists, is mystifying.

Interesting dude, you must be.

I rescind my snap, burn and scorch.

Be well.

Not to side track too far but, as I've commented before, I'm starting a conversion process and I do not feel I should fly any icons until I have actually officially converted. I guess I could change it to seeker but... meh, I sort of like being mysterious.

 

[PhilosophicalBluster]

Anyone who hasn't been swindled out of part of his ability to see the obvious has that, because it's self-evidently wrong.

What? Objective evidence?

What exactly is a "moral decision" in this context?

Morals are subjective, so it really doesn't matter if he tells you.

 

[Avatar]

Actually yes, there is need to be subtle. It helps people take you seriously. This is evident because nobody so far in this thread seems to have taken you seriously.

Oh, I take him seriously. He votes for Presidents.

 

[Avatar]

Not to side track too far but, as I've commented before, I'm starting a conversion process and I do not feel I should fly any icons until I have actually officially converted. I guess I could change it to seeker but... meh, I sort of like being mysterious.

May your journey be fruitful.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Or maybe why so many believe that it IS a sin. Oops, your argument works both ways.

No it doesn't. Same-gender sex is inappropriate for Christians to engage in. Read Romans chapter 2 for the evidence.

Guess we'd better go looking for OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE and maybe even LOGIC to make moral decisions huh?

Logic? LOGIC?

It is not logical to promote the idea that gay culture and/or same-gender sex acts are compatible with the testimony of the Apostles. What we call New Testament truth.

It is logical though, for Christians, to hold to marriage as Jesus taught it, as man and woman. Immutably so.

Logically.

The objective evidence is that gay culture is antithetical to Christian life.